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05-04-2005 06:20 PM  12 years agoPost 1
EuSeller

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I am not sure if any seller here. If yes, I just want to gather some information from the sellers - not buyers advice please.

When you sell a rc helicopter (or plane) to someone and he crashed the helicopter, and he like to get exchange because he claimed the helicopter is defective. What will you do? (the helicopter is working 100% when he received that - but crahsed or damaged after couple flys)

It seems some people just do not like to take the responsibility for his mistake. So I like to gather some information from the sellers and see what's the proper way to handle the situation like this (or something similar). You can post your suggestion, advice or share your own experience here or by private message.

The purpose of this topic is to gather some information from sellers and we can share them later.

To MOD: sorry, if I posted in the wrong forum, please move this to the right one.

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05-04-2005 06:24 PM  12 years agoPost 2
slant911

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Las Vegas, NV. Hirobo, Magnum Fuels, MAH

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If the machine was accepted at time of delivery and no problems were noted from shipping damage etc... then it's his responsibility.

The notion that someone would even THINK of coming back after crashing and blaming the seller burns my butt. It's like calling GMC and saying I crashed my new car and it's your fault for selling it to me. Whoever this "person" is needs to get a life!


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05-04-2005 06:32 PM  12 years agoPost 3
RCHeliJim

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Orem, UT USA

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Whenever someone buys a used RC vehicle of any kind, it is their responsibility to look the vehicle over. I have purchased a number of used helis, and what I always do is tear the machine down and build it from scratch - this way I can catch any problems and can fly knowing that it was built right - or at least any fault will be my own.

A person selling a used heli cannot possibly catch every problem with it, thats just fact. If you looked over the machine as well as reasonably possible and were honest with the buyer - than it is his fault it crashed.

Honestly, the guy is probably pissed that he messed up or missed something and is looking for a place to put the blame. I think, for the most part, most who sell used helis are honest and try their best to present the machine as it is. Just my 2 cents on it



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05-04-2005 06:32 PM  12 years agoPost 4
blockatvalpo

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Reston, VA

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Any rc item is sold as is in my book. Others stupidity is not your fault. Any heli flyer should know that before flying it, it should have a thorough check up. To take a heli and just fly it is asking for trouble in my book. If you have pics of it when you sold it, tell him that is the way you would like it back. If it was sold to you, it is wrong to try to give it back in a different condition. The person has a lot of nerve asking for a full refund. You could ask him to send it back along with a money order for the replacement parts, but in no way should you be responsibly for the broken items.

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05-04-2005 07:06 PM  12 years agoPost 5
BarracudaHockey

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Jacksonville FL

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As long as you didn't misrepresent the item you sold, and the buyer looked it over and did'nt have any gripes when he/she got it, then I would say once he flies it its his.

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05-04-2005 07:11 PM  12 years agoPost 6
robert92679

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Orange County, CA

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If your buyer had an issue with the heli, the time to bring it up was upon receipt and inspection. He should have looked it over and identified any issues BEFORE he flew it.

We have a saying at our field: the warranty expires once it leaves the ground!

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05-04-2005 07:25 PM  12 years agoPost 7
zagidave

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you say he crashed after "couple of flys"
in my book its buyer beware and if he flew it more than once then
a post flight check is where the blame could lie.

any second hand m\c should be thoroughly checked before use
thats common sense.

did you offer any sort of warranty\guarantee when you sold this m\c?
what level of experience does the new owner have?

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05-04-2005 07:26 PM  12 years agoPost 8
Eury

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Dover NH

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I agree with the above posts. Once it's sold and received, it's gone. Period. The buyer needs to go over the equipment thoroughly upon receipt, and if there is something wrong, THAT is the time to get a refund, or other compensation. If the buyer flies and crashes it, there is NO WAY they are entitled to a refund.

I've been on both sides of it. I bought a Raptor 60V2 from here, and on the third flight, it threw a paddle and self destructed, to the tune of around $400. Turns out that it was missing a set screw from the paddle, and I didn't catch it in preflight. The seller in this case offered to help with the repairs, but I told him it wasn't his fault, and fixed ti myself, which was the right thing to do. I also sold a Raptor 50V2, and the engine seized on the 5th flight. Ran perfect when it left me, and for the first few flights with the new owner. He didn't ask for a refund either, jsut let me know what happened. It wasn't my fault, it was just bad timing. You need to tell the person you are dealing with that it waws bad timing on their part as well. Anyone would back you up on that.

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05-04-2005 07:28 PM  12 years agoPost 9
Rob Shaw

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Egham, Surrey, UK

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As we all know too well , A heli can crash at anytime anyplace whether it's used or brand new !!! It was probably pilot error & he's trying it on !!


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05-04-2005 07:57 PM  12 years agoPost 10
armageddon

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N. Y.

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There are shady individuals on both sides.. But, I do believe
they are in the minority..

Everyone should remember that this is a hobby. so enjoy it and
stop the $hit..
As we all know too well , A heli can crash at anytime anyplace whether it's used or brand new !!!
TRUE.. TRUE.. TRUE... and also, who is to say what damages were there before the crash and what happend after the crash..

there wont be any 100% proof.. so you accept the damage and move
on..

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WHAT SIGNATURE?

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05-04-2005 08:35 PM  12 years agoPost 11
Hoagie1

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Redmond, WA

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was the buyer a RR member?

Just curious.

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05-04-2005 08:44 PM  12 years agoPost 12
EuSeller

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To RS

No, the buyer is not the RR member I think. The primary reason for me to set up this post is try to gather some information about the fly and crash issue. So we (all sellers) know how to handle this kind problem when it arise.

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05-04-2005 10:20 PM  12 years agoPost 13
blockatvalpo

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Reston, VA

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Man, we got all excited over nothing.

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05-04-2005 11:50 PM  12 years agoPost 14
sabooo

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Allentown, PA area

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I offer full money back on any copters I've sold if its condition is misrepresented, or the buyer thought they were getting something else. That offer ends as soon as the engine is started.



I was going to take up Origami, but someone said the local club folded.

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05-05-2005 12:08 AM  12 years agoPost 15
JohnL

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If you do infact give the guy his money back I'll buy all of my choppers from you LOL. Once I crash I'll be ready for a nice shinny new one for FREE~~!!!

BCHPA Member since: Jun 06' - CP 30% Heli Fuel.....Burn Some!!!

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05-05-2005 01:31 AM  12 years agoPost 16
RICHW

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Cupertino, CA

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You're not exactly free and clear from this. If the buyer can prove that you had knowledge of critical defects in the heli and did not disclose this information AND this particular crash could have been avoided by the buyer having this information before flying, then you could be culpable.

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05-05-2005 02:12 AM  12 years agoPost 17
slant911

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You're not exactly free and clear from this. If the buyer can prove that you had knowledge of critical defects in the heli and did not disclose this information AND this particular crash could have been avoided by the buyer having this information before flying, then you could be culpable.
Holy Cow. You're not an attorney or anything are you??


John B. McNamara

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05-05-2005 02:54 AM  12 years agoPost 18
cforcht

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Chelsea in BFE Iowa

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I feel if its not misrepresented then its the buyers obligation to make sure the bird is airworthy. when i buy a used bird i accept that there is no warranty expressed or implied. unless there is obvious damage from shipping or somethings missing or excluded in the original description. otherwise its the buyers responsibility. it was they that chose to start the engine. if the buyer didnt check it out before maiden flight its their fault if it goes in. PERIOD my.02



[b]heli flyer by day, custom making cnc heli parts by night[/b]

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05-05-2005 03:03 AM  12 years agoPost 19
Ted Toth

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Myrtle Beach S.C.

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in you heart if the heli is working 100% when he received
you have no responsibility
every thing I sell is sold as presented and like like most vendors
if returned in the same condition I would take back no problem
but wrecked yes problem

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