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HelicopterKyosho Caliber/Quest Neo-Caliber series › electronics and motor needed
05-04-2005 02:11 PM  12 years agoPost 1
cycleman

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I am new to this and just bought a caliber 30 kit. Any suggestions on what servos, gyro and motor is best to use? Are there special things I need to buy for glow plug , to install and start engine? I have both a Jr 8103 and a Futaba T6XHsuper transmitter.

I am flying the Venture with the Jr transmitter - but I bought it all put together and everything was already installed. Thanks for any and all suggestions.

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05-04-2005 03:27 PM  12 years agoPost 2
wurthless

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It's too hard to say without knowing your budget....I could give you a dream machine for big bucks but my wallet kept it down to DS811's for everything but the tail, I put a 401/9254 for the gyro. I would stay with the JR radio myself. Depends on what you wanna fly 3D or scale also,,,,,for the motor,,humm I would go with the OS37 or Toki 40,

QUICK! ,,,can someone turn the gravity off for just a second,,,,

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05-04-2005 05:10 PM  12 years agoPost 3
ROBO2971

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check out my gallery if you want to see a bad ass set up!!!

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05-04-2005 06:07 PM  12 years agoPost 4
cmsilvoy

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For the price of a fully upgraded Caliber 30 (of which I have owned 3) I finally decided to just break bad and buy a Sylphide 50 with IMZ RV-50 engine.
It's SWEET
Keep the caliber simple, it flies great out of the box with the only upgrade being a servo tray stiffener.
Until you decide to install the 50 upgrade kit and start hammering it, you probably will not see a difference at all.
I'd get some 9252 servos and set it up for eCCPM and use a 401 gyro.
You'll need a one way start shaft, Heliproz has a nice one.
Get a remote glow jig, as the canopy can make it difficult to heat the plug, unless you hack the canopy apart.
If you can afford it, use the )S 37 or Toki 40 for "room to grow into."

Keep us posted on your progress

Chris

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05-04-2005 06:41 PM  12 years agoPost 5
Chem Geek

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How did you spend that much on a Caliber!? I mean isn't the sylphide like $1500 with the engine?

Anyways, get some good eCCPM servos (digital make a difference here) and a GY401/9254. Also get the servo tray stiffener as mentioned. Aside from that nothign is really necessary. Plenty of other good looking items, but bang for buck drops off pretty quickly with some of these.

All the starting gear you use on the Venture will work for teh Caliber just fine. The 8103 is a good mid level radio and will probably serve you fine until you become an expert 3D pilot. Even then you may not need to upgrade. Although, again a nicer radio is fun to have!

Pretty much what cmsilvoy said.

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05-04-2005 10:26 PM  12 years agoPost 6
wurthless

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Damn Robo that's one BEEEUUUTTEEETTIIIIIFULL machine you have put togheter...is there any bling that you're missing there? I would only suggest dumping the volt-watch for a Gemm 2000...JMHO I'm green with envy (kinda like your gallery )

QUICK! ,,,can someone turn the gravity off for just a second,,,,

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05-05-2005 12:18 PM  12 years agoPost 7
cmsilvoy

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Ok, here's your $1500 Caliber lineup

Caliber 30 $270
OS 37 $150
MP2 $75
KSJ elevator $90
Correct head $230
Correct swash $90
Correct washout $90
Correct gears $160
Correct fan $40
Correct clutch $40
Correct tail gear case $80
Correct tail grips $30
KSJ Motor Mount $60
KSJ Servo Frame $25
KSJ Servo tray $40
KSJ Tail pitch arm $70
KSJ Tail boom support mount $30
Kyosho ail arms x 2 $58

GRAND TOTAL $1628.......WOW!!!!!!!!!!

did I miss anything???
Oh yeah, carbon tail boom supports, carbon fins, aluminum tail boom servo mount, carbon pushrod......and don't forget the blades...All of which are upgraded from stock

And just remember folks, this is still a 30 class heli, and we have not even STARTED with electronics.
Add the 50 upgrade kit and 50 Hyper and you'll roll in yer grave thinking about the $$$

So, I just went for the Sylphide that is all CF and aluminum right out of the box, and includes the RV-50 engine and muffler for right around $1200.

Don't get me wrong, I love my Caliber too. And Robo's caliber IS the nicest LOOKING one I've seen.

Chris

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05-05-2005 01:15 PM  12 years agoPost 8
dkshema

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Cycleman --

Stick with the JR 8103. The Futaba 6XHS is a lame radio for a helicopter as it has almost no useful helicopter functionality. The 8103 will go a long way with you with its multiple throttle and pitch curve capability.

JR RX, DS 811's would be great for the cyclic and throttle. Gy401/S9254 combo for the TR.

OS 37 for the motor, but put a good muffler on it. Hatori or Toki Muffler, possibly the KSJ Competition 30. Though the stock muffler is great for the OS 32, don't bother to put it on the 37, as the 37 will suffer badly with too small a muffler.

You need a start shaft for your starter -- 6mm hex end, WITH a one-way clutch in the shaft.

Remote glow plug extension is nice, makes life easier.

When you finally break the stock wood blades, treat yourself to a set of fiberglass Mavrikk 550 main rotor blades. They work extremely well in this heli.

Stick a 2 oz header tank on the side, add a bit of plumbing -- T - type fuel filter and a KSJ clamp makes refueling simple.

You'll also need the usual starter, 12V battery, 1.5v glow plug battery, fuel pump, etc.

Get a good pitch gauge and learn how to use it.

Set your heli up for the EMS (electronic servo mix), not MMS. Follow the assembly instructions, paying close attention to the minimum distance between the center of the servo arm and the point where the push rod goes.

Do yourself a favor and pick up a set of JIS screwdrivers (most shops sell them). The "phillips" head screws AREN'T phillips, and if you use the wrong screwdriver, will give you grief. JIS drivers fit the heads and work great.

Sure, you can put all sorts of expensive CNC upgrades on the heli and spend a fortune, making your initial $200 investment into a pricey bit of shiny metal. BUT -- there is NO WAY that you NEED to. The heli really needs NO upgrades to fly great. Don't blame the heli for being expensive if you can't say no to shiny metal parts.

Dave

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05-05-2005 04:15 PM  12 years agoPost 9
ROBO2971

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thanks for the positive remarks guys. she is my baby and i love her. but your right, i do probably have way too much $$$ in that machine. but it was fun. ROBO

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05-06-2005 06:09 AM  12 years agoPost 10
wurthless

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Bling is a good thing if you don't mind the sting,,,,after all it is a hobby that should give you joy,,,,don't matter how

QUICK! ,,,can someone turn the gravity off for just a second,,,,

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