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05-05-2005 10:32 PM  12 years agoPost 81
heligoole

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to be sure that the best pilot wins because set manouvres(1st round)are added to competition final freestyle rounds..i guess that you have to be good at set manouvres as well as 3d

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05-05-2005 10:33 PM  12 years agoPost 82
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maybe there should be a final in set manouvres too..

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05-05-2005 10:36 PM  12 years agoPost 83
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i have now recieved lots of private messages regarding rainmans post
guess what they did not get an email,im starting to think did rainman turn up at the correct competion.
I hope it was the correct competition !! I had a good day out and managed not to crash, despite being the first flyer in each round!!

I have recieved no emails or pm`s regarding my post and surprised it caused such a reaction. All I did was to copy and paste a section of the email sent to me prior to the competition. I note that this email was sent to 22 individuals (competitors and judges) so it might be interesting to know which competitor did not recieve this info.
but why would paul want to create a new document.
according to rain man in an earlier post said that every competitor recived an email with the format.
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phil844 - please refrain from misquoting me - I might get

The email gave us additional info such as aprox. timings and contact numbers.
its looking ropey guys
If I did not now better, I might think that you were knocking the event - maybe I'm working off a different agenda to you

Did you enter?????????????
.the competitors had plenty of practice on saturday and sunday morning,they did not need another practice mid competition
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I was not there on Saturday - I have a family, nor did I fly on the Sunday morning prior to the comp. That was my choice, but goes against your assumptions.

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05-05-2005 10:54 PM  12 years agoPost 84
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great comp no matter what criticsisms are flying about...all the flyers were remarkable..and i hope to compete myself next year...if i can only pass my "b"

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05-05-2005 11:10 PM  12 years agoPost 85
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I have no criticsisms of the event, nor did I hear any criticsisms from any competitor. I am already looking foward to the next one as are a couple more members of my club who after spectating at this years comp,are aiming to practice hard, get their B cert and enter next year.

Full marks to the organisers, judges and the other competitors.

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05-05-2005 11:21 PM  12 years agoPost 86
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yea rain man so good on bruce thompson for a truly deserved win.

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05-05-2005 11:24 PM  12 years agoPost 87
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Phil844
you put the question above.
1st n last scores are all that count in the final m8
and whats the reason for that??
It was decided by the organisers of clubmans 3d that the top 5 pilots should fly a fly off freestyle round as we know.

That fly off freestyle score replaces the first freestyle round which was the middle round of the day.
So the first (Set manouvers) and last (fly off freestyle) as in 1st and last scores... count.

gave those 5 another chance to fight it out. Give it some.

Seamed to be a good way to do it I thought. Made the final round exciting and meaningful to those 5.

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05-05-2005 11:28 PM  12 years agoPost 88
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nice idea i thought too simon....as you said it would mean more to those last 5..havin to rock those stix

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05-05-2005 11:31 PM  12 years agoPost 89
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but as i posted before....maybe there should be a final set manouvre round too..these are difficult to do too!!!!!!

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05-05-2005 11:51 PM  12 years agoPost 90
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HI
....maybe there should be a final set manouvre round too..these are difficult to do too!!!!!!
More so to most pilots.!
That is what 3dmasters have always done but in that case the flight to music rounds stand. And they are hard aswell.

Personally I think Clubman 3d guys made the best choice to fly the one more exciting round again as a fly off.
The set manouver round stood which actually made it more important, in that they had the one chance..No second chances like the freestyle.
If they keep that format, it sort of adds that tad more pressure to that round and importance to focus on the sets.

I think also it is a case of time. This years first event appeared to me to be so well balanced. A meaningful competition yet plenty of really interesting quality demos.

I am sure next year they will review the format again but I reckon judging by the brilliant reaction of all pilots who entered and spectators that watched, next year will see a big increase in competitors.
Thus unless they place the comp over two days they will have little time to have more rounds with the increase pilot count.

Roll on next year..
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05-05-2005 11:58 PM  12 years agoPost 91
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well i cannot argue ,this makes true sense to me...as to i hope most that read this post...great things have been and are yet to come...thanks simon for your support in the 1st"CLUBMANS COMPETITION"also thanks to all envolved...what a great step-up for ordinary guys....

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05-07-2005 09:34 AM  12 years agoPost 92
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a question guys

what was the point in the second round if it was to be scrapped..thats means i tried hard in that round and may of binned my heli for nothing.i must say lads the more you defend this scoring the more dodgy it sound....all i have to say is please make sure you get this right for next year(please) ps maybe they could of make the top five do all the wildcards in the final flight..also why not scrap the last round when myself and craig jones crashed
regards craig 4th place

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05-07-2005 09:53 AM  12 years agoPost 93
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Hi
Im glad they had a final round, I realy enjoyed it even tho i did crash, It added some real presure and excitement. I understand what your saying tho, Maybe some Prior Warning would of been nice so that we would of knowen it was comeing.

Saying that if you had Crashed in the 2nd round you would of been very unlikly to get into the 3rd round or come in the top 5 anyway so not haveing a heli to fly in that 3rd round would not of mattered

I do think the way the final results are made could be improved nxt year, Comeing 7th in the 1st round ment even if I had came 1st in the final round (not that i would of) The best position I could of come was probably only 3rd or 2nd unless every one got VERY LOW scores because they all crashed or something silly. But there is only one way for me to fix this and it is to practise my sey manovers next time .

I think takeing all 3 rounds into the final result may of been a better way to judge the final result, So if somebody like my self does poor in the set manovers and pulls it back in there freestyle they still have a chance to win the compitition, Obviously there set manovers would still be holding them back in there final score but that good performace in the freestyle that got them inot the top 5 would be working for them, If then for example they pull anouther exceptional freestyle out of the bag this would give them a chance of winning.

Saying all that, I was very Impressed the way the whole Event was run and at the end of the day I feal the results did come out correct

Just a note for next year I supose.

(Quick UK Pilot) :- What can I do rather than What Can't I Do! :)

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05-07-2005 10:38 AM  12 years agoPost 94
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i recon that goes for most of us

but if i won under them circumstances.i would take that big 1st place cup fill it with Champagne and get pissed so i could sleep at night..its not bruces fault..and im happy with my result....and bruce is a great flyer...BUT he crashes and if you where a f1 driver and you came off on the first bend..they would not give every one more laps and more pitstops would they..the event was brill and i loved it but they will have to sort the scoring method out

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05-07-2005 12:21 PM  12 years agoPost 95
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what was the point in the second round if it was to be scrapped..
As I saw it as a spectator, it was to pick out the top 5 for the fly off, if you crashed in the second round your score was taken at that point, fortunatley for Bruce he A, flew well & B, crashed near the end of his flight but his score was enough to get him in the "final".

What I did'nt realise (as a spectator), that the pilots did not know until after the second round that there would be a 3rd round, if that is correct then that may have been unfair, they should have been told before the comp started.

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05-07-2005 12:35 PM  12 years agoPost 96
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i recon

i recon they should have added all three rounds together.i would still be 4th place..but would have changed he first three around ps why scrap that second round

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05-07-2005 08:49 PM  12 years agoPost 97
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the second round counted as this was added to 1st round in order to qualify for the final.

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05-07-2005 09:47 PM  12 years agoPost 98
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just so happens non of the competiters new abought the final round.
untill 30 seconds be for it.

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05-07-2005 09:48 PM  12 years agoPost 99
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But if that was the case why were the competitors only told about the "final" after the end of the second round.

Tony

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05-07-2005 09:56 PM  12 years agoPost 100
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you'll have to take that up with the contests directors/organisers.I'm sure they will be able to answer any questions.

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