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04-01-2005 10:49 PM  13 years agoPost 1
glfloat

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Hi I'm debating on a Raptor 50v2 or Raptor 60 and have a few questions. This is my first nitro heli. I have flown a few big electricsgo before (logo..etc). What I like about the 60 is its BIG and hence easier to see/fly. I also dont want to get a R50 and then later want a R60 anyway. I just want to make one investment in the best, and hang on to that investment for a while. The R60 kit is 200$ more than the 50. It would cost me more to say, get a 50, "graduate" and then want to get a 60 or 90. Why not go for the middle ground.. a R60! See my logic in this?

I'm wondering if the R60 is the same mechanics as the 90 (hence interchaingable parts). I dont want to get a machine that is hard to find parts for or very expensive. The R50 parts are fairly cheap. I've noticed the R60 parts are about 10-15 % more.

Lastly I want both performance and endurance as I'm still very much learning and want to transition to 3d and then agressive 3d without adding too many "upgrades". In terms of endurance, I plan on having as many flights as possible, so the machine should be able to withstand some abuse and I dont want to spend a fortune on fuel. With that in mind, what kind of endurance can I expect on a 60 running 30%.
Vs. the same setup on a 50.

Thanks

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04-01-2005 11:21 PM  13 years agoPost 2
nappyroots2182

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honestly go for the 50. ive flown my share and went back to the 50. its cheaper but still do anything you ever want. equipped right and it will not let you down. the 50 has crazy power to weight ratio.

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04-02-2005 12:13 AM  13 years agoPost 3
DRusso

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Get a stock Raptor Raptor 50v2. Outside of Metal mixing arms and TT carbon blades you can leave it stock. A good gyro, govenor and decent quality servos is all you need. You can beat it to no end and the Rappy won't let you down. I had a 60 and sold it for a 2nd 50v2. Good luck........

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04-02-2005 12:23 AM  13 years agoPost 4
Al Magaloff

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I would go 60, then later upgrade to 90.

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04-02-2005 12:26 AM  13 years agoPost 5
Raffy

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If you truly want the big block machine, get the R90Std instead of the R60.
The best suggestion would be the R50v2 with the new OS50Hyper head engine!

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04-02-2005 02:10 AM  13 years agoPost 6
BlakeMcBrayer

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My first was the 60, what a breeze to fly. That was last summer and over winter it grew into a 90 with YS .91.

Most everything is the same between the 60 and 90. The mechanics are basicly the same. I have pics in my gallery of it as both a 60 and 90.

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Don't come off the throttle untill you see your GOD!

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04-02-2005 04:29 AM  13 years agoPost 7
Scooterpilot

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Which one
glfloat

Not all parts on the R-60 fit on a R90. The tail booms are different lenthts, the clutch and clutch bell, gearing is different and there are other things as well.

If you want to end up with a 90., start with the R-90 standard and buy a 60 motor for it. You can upgrade the motor later but everthing else that you would need you will have.

When I started flying I bought a 60 size model.

Everyone has different opinions on how you should start flying. The one thing I would say for sure, make sure you have people in your area that fly what ever you buy. This will greatly help you with setup and first flight.

Regards,

Scooterpilot

Two G-4's & X50's YS60SR,Futaba 18SZ/12Z/14FG, ,Rail Blades Rep

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04-02-2005 09:41 AM  13 years agoPost 8
glfloat

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Guys, Thanks so much for the responces. It's allways great to hear other peoples experiences. This hobby does cost lots of money,it's good to be sure of your investment. Thanks a lot.

Austin

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04-02-2005 10:31 AM  13 years agoPost 9
Al Magaloff

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Austin, not everyone is destined to be a 3D monster. The 50's have good power to weight. The larger machines fly smooth, auto much nicer, and present a larger sight picture. Someone who flys the airplane pattern, will appreciate the larger machine. I would never recommend a 90 anything as a first ship. If you do get in and get hooked, having only one helicopter is rare.

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04-03-2005 03:51 AM  13 years agoPost 10
Buzzin Brian

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I agree with Al. If i had it to do over again I wouldn't hesitate to go with a 60. The stability if fantastic, and they fly much better IMPO. But a 90 would NOT be a choice I would consider. I would wait until I was ready and upgrade to the 90. If I ever did need such a thing. Which of course I would! Don't get me wrong, the 50's are great, and for most are a great learners platform. But if I could afford the cost of doing so, I wouldn't have an issue at all with learning with a 60. The good thing is, if you look around you can upgrade a Raptor 60 to a 90 for a little over $100 less engine, blades, and muffler. So it is not that big of a deal to do if latter you decide that this is what you want to do. I often siggest the Raptor 50 for a trainer, but that is largly due to the cost to get in the hobby if starting out on a 60. But like I said, if the cost isn't an issue. Then I say go for it.

Build it, fly it, crash it. Repeat as often as needed.

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04-04-2005 05:33 AM  13 years agoPost 11
supertux1

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Get the Raptor SE version (50 or 90), it has all the little upgraded bits that you'll eventually put on anyway once you figure out the stock plastic parts are crap. You'll save money.

I'd recommend the 90SE if you want 60 size. You don't have to put a 90 engine in it if you're uncomfortable or inexperienced with that amount of power. When you're ready, you can upgrade the engine. The 90SE is really just a better 60 STD with a longer boom. You can easily fit an OS 70 in it with a simple gearing and blade change. (Use the 60 gearing, 680 or 690 mm blades.)

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04-04-2005 03:22 PM  13 years agoPost 12
ornatep

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Al couldn't have said it better he knows what he is talking about, the 60 is stable and not one heli pilot at my field has only one bird 2,3,4,5,etc. Maybe a simulator also, these are very helpfull for orientation g2,g3, good luck and have fun

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04-04-2005 08:38 PM  13 years agoPost 13
glfloat

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Thanks guys!
Thanks for all the helpfull info guys!
I've decided to go with a R50 V2 SE with the OS Hyper. 1 TT blade, 1 Mavrick. Yes, EVERYONE has one at the field. Thats good and bad. The only bad is they all look the same. :\ Might put a different canopy on. lol.

I came to the realization that I should get a 90SE if I want that size, but cant deal with that amount of cash + I'm not experienced enough. So the plan is to get good with the 50, crash, fly, crash, fly. crah.. and then get the 90 SE. To get a 60 and spend all the money to get it to be a 90 SE eventually will be a waste of money. Aftermarket upgrades allways cost more than just getting the kit with all the jazz right away. This way too if I crash one, at least I have another heli to fly.

This hobby is so darn addictive!

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04-04-2005 08:52 PM  13 years agoPost 14
Gary

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glfloat,


The Raptor 90 std with the OS 70 engine is a good ship for what you're doing. It serves more than one purpose. The bigger machines are more stable in wind, and, when you decide to move on up to a 90 engine you already have everything to do it with. The 90 std comes with the heavy duty clutch and larger bell, and upgrades are not even needed on the std.

"Who said obsession was a bad thing"

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