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03-28-2005 11:53 PM  13 years agoPost 1
bigbri

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Got a Raptor 60 W/ os 70 SZH....what are you guys running for pitch and throttle settings (I would like to try 3-D)
Thanks in advance
Brian

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03-29-2005 12:25 AM  13 years agoPost 2
supertux1

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I have the same setup.

In normal mode, I've got pitch at -3 0 +9 with throttle points 20,50,100
In idle up1 mode, I've got pitch at -9 0 +9 with throttle points 100,50,100
In throttle hold mode, I've got pitch at -5 0 +13 with throttle at 25

If this is your first helicopter I suggest setting every mode on your
transmitter to the same settings as 'normal' until you learn how to fly.
Make use of your throttle hold for starting the helicopter, if there's
a momentary switch on your TX (for training), reprogram it to cut
the engine when in throttle hold. The Raptor 60 manual is a good
start, it has a section for setting the helicopter up for 3D. You did
read the manual, right?

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03-29-2005 03:14 AM  13 years agoPost 3
BlakeMcBrayer

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I don't know that I agee with the above for 3D, it might be right for hovering and knocking around, but WAY wrong for 3D.

Run your pitch settings in all 3 flight modes at +10/-10. This way when you change flight modes in flight, you won't get any pitch change and BIG altitude changes.

As for throttle curves, you will need a V type curve in idle 1 & 2, something like 100-55-30-55-100. BUT THIS IS ONLY A EXAMPLE. Every heli requires it's own curve setting.

You will find alot of good set up info here:

http://www.raptortechnique.com/

Don't come off the throttle untill you see your GOD!

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03-29-2005 03:19 AM  13 years agoPost 4
xcellgasman101

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I agree with BlakeMcBrayer, That is the same way I set all my heli up..
I make ALL 3 flight mode's the same also. That way no matter what you are doing or what flight mode the heli act's the same.. The only thing differant from going from normal mode to idleup 1 or 2 is th sound of the engine,, John Crotts

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03-29-2005 03:25 AM  13 years agoPost 5
xcellgasman101

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A easy way to set the throutle curve's up is when you get it lined out in normal mode check to see where your throutle curve is at hovering,, say it is 40%, Make you bottom of your V curve, say 45 to 50% then go up at both ends to 100%, break it down into equal parts between the bottom V curve to the top of the V curve,, that way the throutle is smooth thru the curve.. Hope this helps.. Like Blake said, all throutle curves are differant on every heli,, I dont have two the same,, I know that someone will chime in, GET A GOV.
Then you don't have to worrie about it,,, Have a Great Day John Crotts

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03-29-2005 05:25 AM  13 years agoPost 6
Tek

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I run this on my R70

+10, 5.5, -7 Normal
+10, 0 , -10 Idle 1
+10, 0, -10 Idle 2

TJ Pro for throttle control and just a normal V-curve on idle ups

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03-29-2005 11:31 AM  13 years agoPost 7
Ben-T-Spindle

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+/-10 is way too much for 3D and can cause boom strikes.

+/-9 is much better – you nave more head speed and better cyclic response.

... BTS

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03-29-2005 12:29 PM  13 years agoPost 8
bigbri

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Thanks for all the information guys. Yes I read the manuel...I guess my main question was should I use the extra power of the 70 for more head speed or toss in an extra degree of pitch. I am currently able to do basic manuevers with a Raptor 30 I.E. rolls, loops, stall turns one sucessful auto....not by my choice.......One question for ben-t-spindle....why would +10-10 cause boom strikes ?????
Thanks to all who replied
Brian

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03-29-2005 01:51 PM  13 years agoPost 9
Ben-T-Spindle

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Too much pitch will cause head speed to drop and during high g maneuvers you very easily get a boon strike. As the head speed drops you have less centrifugal force to keep the blades out and they will bend down toward the boom. The combination of full negative collective and full aft cyclic is the worst case – if there is any bogging down during a maneuver like that you can very easily get a boom strike. It’s very spectacular, as the helicopter will literally explode in the air!

More head speed is always better than more pitch.

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... BTS

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03-29-2005 02:05 PM  13 years agoPost 10
da_man

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Central NC

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The differences in the above setups seems just like a prefrence. To Fly 3D you just need one flight mode with a V curve. The endpoints are adjusted depended on what you like to run. You got a good place to start.

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03-29-2005 03:27 PM  13 years agoPost 11
bigbri

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Thanks for all the info guys....this is VERY helpful...Great info bent-t-spindle
Thanks to all who replied
Brian

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03-29-2005 10:14 PM  13 years agoPost 12
jscott55

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Whether or not you will get a boom strike with 10 degrees pitch depends on a lot of other things, your head speed, your blades, the dampeners etc...

I'd not recommened it for 'stock' (ie plastic head, black dampeners and wood blades) which is what I'm assuming you have. Linear curves and hovering at 3/4 is the easiest way to learn 3D, since everything is symmetrical, that helps
a whole lot. My recommended curves for normal mode above center (0 pitch) are exactly that of what they would be for idle up. You only have to learn to fly under one setting. By "3D", I mean anything OTHER than hovering, piroing, and flying forward rightside up.

I run a governor from a three way switch, giving me settings of "off" (default curves), 1500 and 1700. It works independently of the mode. If I want to fly around gracefully, hover and do some big loops and slow rolls, idle up 1 and 1500RPM works great. Flip to 1700, the loops become flips and the slow rolls become snap rolls. Once you get used to it, you can gradually start taking the expo out of your cyclic.

(1720 is your best speed/power RPM with stock raptor gearing and the OS 70)

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