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12-12-2004 09:02 PM  13 years agoPost 1
Raptor3DPilot

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North Las Vegas, NV

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Why is AMA coverage soo freakin expensive?? $58 dollars for one year w/subsciption to their magazine.... What if I don't want the option of the magazine.....oh wait, there's no option for that. Oh well... I guess that's just part of the world of RC...
Do R/C cars have to pay anything like AMA?

Jason

Remember when flying inverted that down is up and up is EXPENSIVE!

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12-12-2004 09:24 PM  13 years agoPost 2
weshenry1

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Charleston, SC

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For $58 and local club dues I get unrestricted access to a beautiful flying site and lots of local help as well as $2.5 million of liability insurance. Its a great deal with or without the mag. You're talking two gallons of fuel. Be realistic. Remember that these club volunteers get paid nothing.

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12-12-2004 09:42 PM  13 years agoPost 3
IMZ Caliber

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Chesapeake, VA USA

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In the US there is a Car insuarnce as well. Its ROAR and i believe that its $35.00 w/o a magazine option at all. Most car clubs don't make you join though. However if you want to race in any official races you must have it. I forgot what the insurance numbers where though (I seem to remember somewhere around $35,000 liability only). So AMA isn't doing all that bad for us price wise.

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12-12-2004 10:03 PM  13 years agoPost 4
rstacy

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Depending on how you look at it, it's a little early or late for this tired and worn out thread.

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12-12-2004 10:06 PM  13 years agoPost 5
Chuck Bole

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Tulsa Ok. U.S.A.

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r/c tax.
but.. i hope i never need the liability, and i sure don't want to need it and not have it.
chuck

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12-12-2004 10:13 PM  13 years agoPost 6
slz

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out of helis

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AMA Magazine

OUT OF HELIS !

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12-12-2004 10:57 PM  13 years agoPost 7
Rick_H

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Boulder City, Nevada

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$58.00 a year
$ 4.84 a month
$ 1.12 a week
$ 0.16 a day

For $2,500,000.00 of coverage. < home owners, auto, boat, motocycle, And you get a magazine as well.

If it was not for the AMA we could not afford the insurance for our flying site which the City leased us for $1.00 a year. They accepted the AMA insurance with out a problem. I use to think this insurance was high until we built our field now I think it is cheap.

You can complain about it all you like but if it were to go away you will be complaining alot louder when the flying sites and Funflys are shutdown. Or your club membership dues go for $40.00/yr to $140.00/yr to cover the cost of private insurance.

Come on it costs less then a soda a week. If you can't afford that how can you afford to fly?

Rick

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12-12-2004 11:42 PM  13 years agoPost 8
sbalder

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Brighton, Michigan

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It's been a while since there has been a good "let's all trash the AMA thread"!!

Most complaints on RR center around the fact that the AMA supports other aspects of model aviaton beside RC helis; haven't heard much complaining about cost of insurance.

No, I don't like paying my AMA dues, or my $115 club dues. But since golf is the prefered pasttime of the dead-eyed suburbanites in the cubicle farm I work in, I realize from talking to my co-workers just how cheaply we get off in this sport. If I had a motorcycle, boat, jet ski, or other large motorized toy I would have to insure it and I know that insurance would cost a lot more than $58 a year.

In fact my car insurance company does send me a magazine every month and it is nowhere near the editorial quality of Model Aviation.

-Steven Balder

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12-12-2004 11:56 PM  13 years agoPost 9
Bobby Watts

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Orlando, FL

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Since I am under 18, mine was only $1

www.bobbywatts.com

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12-12-2004 11:59 PM  13 years agoPost 10
Raptor3DPilot

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North Las Vegas, NV

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Ouch..... I guess I should have kept my b****ing to myself. I do realize that it is a reasonable price and it does help the R/C community. I was just whining..
Wow $115 club dues!! That is just silly! Do they serve you food and drinks everytime you go fly??
So Model Aviation is a good magazine?

Thanks for the replies and comments. $58 isn't that bad for each year.....just needed someone to justify it for me.

Remember when flying inverted that down is up and up is EXPENSIVE!

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12-13-2004 12:11 AM  13 years agoPost 11
rstacy

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Rochester, NY

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So Model Aviation is a good magazine?
Somewhat. I have heard that the helicopter column is good for lining a bird cage.

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12-13-2004 12:22 AM  13 years agoPost 12
Flyfalcons

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Bonney Lake, WA

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My club dues are 150/year. It all depends on your location. Some guys paying $50/year don't realize how good they have it.

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Ryan Winslow
X-Spec, EVO 50

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12-13-2004 12:33 AM  13 years agoPost 13
Raptor3DPilot

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North Las Vegas, NV

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Wow....our club dues are $20/year...

Remember when flying inverted that down is up and up is EXPENSIVE!

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12-13-2004 01:02 AM  13 years agoPost 14
rmschmidt

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Tooele, Utah

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If you have a nice heli site to fly at and AMA is required, then AMA is worth it, but most cater to planks. The AMA mag also caters to planks. Most people don't realize that the insurance does not kick in until after your home owner insurance and auto insurance picks it up first! My friend had a plank go out of control and hit a car & the AMA would not cover until his home insurance did first. He was at an approved AMA site and was a paid AMA member for many years.

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12-13-2004 05:24 AM  13 years agoPost 15
ACE21

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Las Vegas, Nevada

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Illinoy???...Hmmm...you can spell tennessee and not ILLINOIS??

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12-13-2004 05:41 AM  13 years agoPost 16
day_fiend

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Watertown, WI

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Since I am under 18, mine was only $1
Yep, gotta love that! I've got one more year of one-dollar insurance.

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12-13-2004 08:53 AM  13 years agoPost 17
ChrisLaFollette

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Altha, FL

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Same here. Im 15 so I have a couple of years left. Only $1 buck.

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12-13-2004 01:01 PM  13 years agoPost 18
dkshema

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Cedar Rapids, IA

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There is no such thing as an AMA "approved" site.

There are clubs chartered by the AMA who find, negotiate for, and operate their own flying sites. Most of the time it is the AMA who provides insurance for the SITE OWNER as a result of the CLUB paying a premium on their AMA charter, naming the site owner as an additional insured.

AMA insurance will cover you ANYWHERE you fly, AS LONG AS YOU FOLLOW THEIR SAFETY CODE.

Yes, it has never been a secret that the AMA liability insurance is secondary insurance. At least not for the last 35 years or so that I've been a member.

If the $58 a year is too stiff for you, then become a life member. One time payment, you never have to worry about it again. It will cost you about the price of a decent 60 sized helicopter, ready to fly.

Dave

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12-13-2004 02:15 PM  13 years agoPost 19
rbort

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Franklin, MA - USA

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AMA covers you anywhere?

Are you sure about the AMA will cover you ANYWHERE? I was talking to someone after flying last night in the parking lot and he told me AMA only covers you if you fly at a club field.

He said he looked into it and if you fly at your local school field they do not cover it. Besides the fact that they don't pay until your homeowenrs insurance pays.

Has anyone ever checked if they paid any claims or how many they denied that were filed?

-=>Raja.

MA 1005 Hanson 280, 4158 flts
Spectra 27 3DMax, 3232 flts
Whiplash V1 Hanson 300, 1485 flts
Whiplash V2 Hanson 300, 256 flts

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12-13-2004 02:37 PM  13 years agoPost 20
Dragon2115

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New England

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I think it's an unfair comparison between large group secondary insurance and small group primary insurance where the costs are very different. If it were just the cost difference for secondary insurance between a large group and a small group then the comparison would be more meaningful.

I also think that what people are getting upset about is that there isn't any choice. If you want to fly at a club field or in a competition you must have AMA insurance. There is no option to provide proof of comparable private insurance, which if you have it it's going to pay first anyway.

Along with that I think a large number of people feel that even though they may be forced to take the insurance whether they need it or not, they'd prefer the option to not have to pay for a magazine they don't want.

I think some are also upset because a certain portion of their dues goes to fund a flying site that 95% of the membership will never see or use.

I think what some want is the option to pay for only that which is required of them, and only because it is required to fly where they want, the insurance.

Raja,

Yes, I called the AMA on this and they said that you are covered where ever you fly, including schools, as long as you follow their safety code.

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