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12-09-2004 03:33 AM  13 years agoPost 1
helidog

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Dear God:

Why didn't you save the school children at ?. . .


Moses Lake, Washington 2/2/96

Bethel, Alaska 2/19/97

Pearl, Mississippi 10/1/97

West Paducah, Kentucky 12/1/97

Stamps, Arkansas 12/15/97

Jonesboro, Arkansas 3/24/98

Edinboro, Pennsylvania 4/24/98

Fayetteville, Tennessee 5/19/98

Springfield, Oregon 5/21/98

Richmond, Virginia 6/15/98

Littleton, Colorado 4/20/99

Taber, Alberta, Canada 5/28/99

Conyers, Georgia 5/20/99

Deming, New Mexico 11/19/99

Fort Gibson, Oklahoma 12/6/99

Santee, California 3/5/01 and

El Cajon, California 3/22/01?

Sincerely,
Concerned Student

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Dear Concerned Student:

I am not allowed in schools.

Sincerely,
God

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How did this get started?...

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Let's see, I think it started when Madeline Murray O'Hare complained she didn't want any prayer in our schools.


And we said, OK...


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Then, someone said you better not read the Bible in school, the Bible that says "thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbors as yourself,"

And we said, OK...


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Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave
because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their
self-esteem.

And we said, an expert should know what he's talking about so we won't spank them anymore...

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Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our children
when they misbehave. And the school administrators said no faculty member in this school better touch a student when they misbehave because we don't want any bad publicity, and we surely don't want to be sued.

And we accepted their reasoning...

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Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want, and they won't even have to tell their parents.

And we said, that's a grand idea...

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Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys and they're
going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms they want, so they can have all the fun they desire, and we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school.

And we said, that's another great idea...

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Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter what we do in private as long as we do our jobs.

And we said, it doesn't matter what anybody, including the President, does in private as long as we have jobs and the economy is good...

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And someone else took that appreciation a step further and published pictures of nude children and then stepped further still by making them available on the Internet.

And we said, everyone's entitled to free speech....

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And the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies that promote profanity, violence and illicit sex... And let's record music that encourages rape, drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes...

And we said, it's just entertainment and it has no adverse effect and nobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead...

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Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, classmates or even themselves.

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Undoubtedly, if we thought about it long and hard enough, we could figure it out. I'm sure it has a great deal to do with...
"WE REAP WHAT WE SOW,"

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Pass it on if you think it has merit! If not then just discard it...but if you discard this thought process, then don't you dare sit back and complain about what bad shape this world is in...

Its nice to be the Big Dog.

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12-09-2004 03:48 AM  13 years agoPost 2
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School is for education of things that are factual not spiritual. OK Evolution slipped in somehow

Home is where our children learn morals and ethics. If parents are immoral and unethical how are the children supposed to be better.
Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys and they're
going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms they want, so they can have all the fun they desire, and we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school.
If all boys used them then this would not be necessary
Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want, and they won't even have to tell their parents.
I ask you would you like your wife or daughter to carry the child of a rapist? GOD for bid it ever happen. But it does. Why?

Because their are immoral and unethical people out there and it has nothing to do with believing in god.

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12-09-2004 04:03 AM  13 years agoPost 3
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i would like to reply to this but not right now, the barley pop has taken over my rationalisation of thought so maybe later,
btw peter65 amen!

Smile! people will wonder what you're up to!!

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12-09-2004 04:07 AM  13 years agoPost 4
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If all boys used them then this would not be necessary
condoms do not prevent all pregancy, not even close.. and in many cases teenagers adults for that matter , don't use them correctly anyway.

abortion is a womans right and choice. ..sometimes it is necessary and its not up to any individual ,or collection of indivifuals (i.e. government or church')to say otherwise..

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12-09-2004 04:15 AM  13 years agoPost 5
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condoms do not prevent all pregancy, not even close.. and in many cases teenagers adults for that matter , don't use them correctly anyway
Fair call too. So we givem away at school with a good demonstration.

Remember too it's not only the fault of these horny teenage boys either. The girls have to be willing participants too unless they like sending their boyfriends home with a set of lovers nuts

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12-09-2004 04:23 AM  13 years agoPost 6
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Remember too it's not only the fault of these horny teenage boys either. The girls have to be willing participants too unless they like sending their boyfriends home with a set of lovers nuts
very true.

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12-09-2004 04:26 AM  13 years agoPost 7
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helidog,
Could you be any more of a blow hard?
I am not allowed in schools.
Your God is so spiteful that he could stop human violence but he doesn't because of human laws he doesn't agree with?
the Bible that says "thou shalt not kill,"
Let me guess you support the war in Iraq right.
And we said, OK...
Who is we, do you do everything "they say you should do"?
no faculty member in this school better touch a student when they misbehave
Dame right, please let me know who you think should be able to beat your child.
someone else took that appreciation a step further and published pictures of nude children and then stepped further still by making them available on the Internet
Thats illegal and anyone who does that should be arrested.
Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, classmates or even themselves
Why not thats what our government is doing.

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12-09-2004 04:37 AM  13 years agoPost 8
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I love you guys.
Not really but its fun.
Anytime I need a laugh you never let me down
Thanks again

Its nice to be the Big Dog.

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12-09-2004 04:54 AM  13 years agoPost 9
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That's funny, that's exaclty how I see religion too. A good laugh

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12-09-2004 06:28 AM  13 years agoPost 10
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God is an imaginary friend for adults.

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12-09-2004 07:51 AM  13 years agoPost 11
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Dame right, please let me know who you think should be able to beat your child.
Funny how simple minds turn a spanking or discipline into something described with beating...


The world has gone to ****, kids today don't understand repercussions, responsibility, and accountability, and although I don't pretend to have any answers I know it partly due to a lack of involvement and yes discipline ( yah I am talking about a spanking) by the parents
Let me guess you support the war in Iraq right
Let me guess you support the twin towers.. Three times right? It must be ok to bomb whatever you like when you like right... War has been around since the invention of time neither you or I can stop it but we can participate in its outcome. Most forget the "holy war" isn't new. It just has a new way of playing out.


Just my .02
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12-09-2004 12:52 PM  13 years agoPost 12
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Could you be any more of a blow hard?
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Sorry that he doesn't measure up to your standards, i'm sure he will try harder next time.

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Your God is so spiteful that he could stop human violence but he doesn't because of human laws he doesn't agree with?
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What he is suggesting is that man respect Gods laws. Not the other way around. Nice twist and distort though, clever addition of contempt and disrespect, all in one clean sentence...

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Dame right, please let me know who you think should be able to beat your child.
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Fine, but schools don't work if the kids don't do what is required of them, how do you propose to accomplish this without some form of disipline?

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Thats illegal and anyone who does that should be arrested.
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good clean hit, 1 point.

A lot has changed in the past 4 decades. We do have more problem kids. Laws governing Schools have changed, and maybe there is a conection to some degree, but the thing people don't talk about much is parenting has also changed quite a lot too. Thats the biggest problem IMO.

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12-09-2004 10:45 PM  13 years agoPost 13
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Funny how simple minds turn a spanking or discipline into something described with beating...
No, it's funny how simple minds think smacking a child won't really be teaching them that violence is an exceptable tool if things don't go your way.
kids today don't understand repercussions, responsibility, and accountability
I'm sure you are accurately describing your kids but I don't hit mine, that's the lazy way to teach respect. I talk to them and take away privileges, they get the message. If I thought spanking my boys worked I would do it, It's a lot easier than hearing them cry and wine while they get a time out. The key to discipline is consistency you can't give in and they will test you every time.
Let me guess you support the twin towers
I'm sorry I didn't realize your one of those intellectuals that still thinks Suddam had a roll in 9/11.
It must be ok to bomb whatever you like when you like right.
I don't think so but the President sure does.
Most forget the "holy war" isn't new.
Dude who do you hang out with?

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12-09-2004 11:21 PM  13 years agoPost 14
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I ask you would you like your wife or daughter to carry the child of a rapist? GOD for bid it ever happen. But it does. Why?
Peter I would like to make the assumption that a VERY small percentage of abortions are due to rape. Most abortions are simply because the mother cannot handle a child at the moment, or never wanted one to begin with. It is these people that are the problem. If you are old enough and responsible enough to have sex, then you should be smart enough to use protection or realize that, gulp, consequences may happen. And I firmly believe that the children in the womb should have every right that the mother does, to LIVE.

Hell, we live in a world where the leaders of Peta would die or kill to save a fish, but the same people have no problem with someone killing their own child, its selfish.

Since well over 83% of all pregnancies in civilized countries end up in a successful birth, doesnt that mean that a fetus is a person? 83% is a very good odd.

Again, I am not talking about rape victims, etc. These victims are in a completely different category than those that choose abortion to "fix" the result of their own irresponsibility. PERIOD, thats what it boils down to for most. Harsh, but true

btw the 83% came from AMA documentation given me just 10 months or so ago when I attended childbirth class for my little girl. Peace - Jim



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12-09-2004 11:27 PM  13 years agoPost 15
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Most abortions are simply because the mother cannot handle a child at the moment, or never wanted one to begin with. It is these people that are the problem
I'm not big on abortion as a tool to solve a problem but the same people that want to stop abortions are the ones that want to cut services to help the children once they are born. They have you covered in the womb but after that your on your own.

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12-10-2004 12:09 AM  13 years agoPost 16
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No, it's funny how simple minds think smacking a child won't really be teaching them that violence is an exceptable tool if things don't go your way.
Oh but it is an acceptable tool, in the correct situations. Violence has settled more conflicts than anything else in history and there's no disputing that.

Example 1: How do you think the police get people to accompany them to the court house when they've done something wrong and they don't want to cooperate? Simple, they beat them down and or incapacitate them in some manner, shackle them, and then drag them away. And if all else fails they shoot them.

Example 2: A bully wants something you have but you won't give it to them. So they beat you up and take it. Regardless of right and wrong the bully has won and you have lost the conflict.

Now, what's the difference between the two? One is an acceptable use of violence and the other is not.

Welcome to the real world.

Btw, in the real world not all kids respond to a time out. Some parents are lucky, a simple look is all it takes to discipline their child, others are not so lucky. Each child is different. To believe otherwise is well... simplistic.
I'm not big on abortion as a tool to solve a problem but the same people that want to stop abortions are the ones that want to cut services to help the children once they are born.
I think their postion is easily summed up as, take responsibility for your actions and don't make everybody else pay for your mistakes.

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12-10-2004 12:45 AM  13 years agoPost 17
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Dragon2115
Where did I say that I am teaching my kids not to stand up for themselves. Bullies pick on easy targets, I'm teaching my boys self respect if someone f's with them I would expect them to defend themselves.
Violence has settled more conflicts than anything else in history and there's no disputing that.
There are some that would disagree.
Btw, in the real world not all kids respond to a time out. Some parents are lucky, a simple look is all it takes to discipline their child, others are not so lucky. Each child is different. To believe otherwise is well... simplistic.
Gee thanks for pointing that out, I never thought of that.

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12-10-2004 01:59 AM  13 years agoPost 18
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OK! here goes my opinion; i think for one since the schools are financed by the government that god should be allowed in schools, but guess what! it's our own government doing this to our schools, look at our money what does it say? in god we trust! thats money that you ,i ,and the rest of the citizens of this country use everyday.
i also advocate the use of discipline for a misbehaving child and not let the government do it for me. i object to the schools acting as not only psychiatrists and doctors that your child is so far out of hand that he/she needs to be medicated. i also object to physically capable people that are able to work standing on corners and asking for handouts which also leads to welfare and some disabilities, most of them are frauds! our generation(at least mine) is soon out the door. i also object to my neighbor playing rap crap all night but when i play my stereo i get the order from the cops to turn it down! thats just not right! yes i own a gun and yes they will have to shoot me to disarm me even in the name of freedom! more to come.

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12-10-2004 02:02 AM  13 years agoPost 19
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One thing for sure the people talking about how wrong we are in Iraq are armchair preachers and have never actually been to a war torn country. I am sure the armchair teachings of the press, cover all factual and actual accounts of everything that goes on there and not just what they think will win the armchair bandits vote to watch thier channel..

I don't run amuk "smacking" to quote some, my children. They get the same respect yours do until it stops working.. Not all children respond to privileges being taken away for things.. Some even know that it was wrong and dont whine and cry as you describe, hmm could they actually accept it... I am glad your kids will consistently not test you past once, twice, maybe even more, and I know those kids do exist but they are not all the same. Not all kids reach the point of needing a spanking to get the point but it should not be the governments or your descision that I cannot if I deem it's time has come to that. I also can understand why you automatically use the word "beat or smacking" when you think about spankings must have been an abused child . Cool thing though in todays court system and todays bleeding hearts, you can claim you had a bad upbringing and get away with most anything because of it. Is there a line, yes somewhere after spanking when it becomes an abuse.. a beating... smacking around to show your power. Thats the line.. Hmmm sucks I live in the bleeding heart capital of the world, here in California even pointing your finger is abusive.

Until they are adults they are my kids and I will do what I feel is neccessary to raise them, teach them, guide them and turn them into responsible adults
Just as there is no concrete evidence that spanking your child teaches it violence, there is no evidence that sitting down having a talk with them changes anything either. So a child who throws a tantrum crying and screaming will not learn violence... I would love to see it. They dont come with instructions you do your best I'll do mine.

I admit war is hell and civilians do suffer but you bring up a good point.. The president must feel its ok to bomb a building or attack a building with possible resistance in it. Or lets get to the real hell part of it... Something goes wrong and a bomb hits a bad target with no bad people in it.. That is the only part I feel sorry for.. I don't remember there ever being a weapons cache or large military forces in the WTC.. Not in any of the three attacks..

So you know for sure with your armchair intelligence that Saddam was not involved in any of the three attacks... Thanks for informing us because before you told me I didn't know that.. I thought he was a great guy attacking those other countries on his own without the UN's or a great number of nations support in the jest that the one's he was attacking was doing wrong.. Thank you. Oh and I cannot wait for the late breaking news of the president going around town threatening and killing his own, scaring them into submission with the fear of thier life.. Saddam was a great guy!!!! Wasn't he..

My use of the holy war statement was to only press a point that war is war and the oldest profession. The bleeding hearts of the world will not stop it ever unless you have a magic ray gun that makes everyone agree on the same point. Bag the president.... it's your right.. but we at least get a vote in a quarum before we invade someone and start blowing the crap out of thier country. I am sure since you are all knowing about Saddam and him not doing anything deserving all of those countries that supported his ousting that you are right and he did nothing wrong.. I mean all the countries that wagered this must have all been wrong.

But I agree that we should pull out of Iraq and every place else, Close up our frikin borders and keep everyone out. I am sure France, England and others would have loved for us to stay out when Germany was invading. We also need to stop all outside country support and take care of our own internally.. I would love the see the World Christian fund and any other good cause taking rice, goods, and clothes to those parts of our own country that are suffering. When small countries are being invaded turn a blind eye and say "to bad... the bleeding hearts don't approve of war! You two need to talk it out"

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12-10-2004 02:27 AM  13 years agoPost 20
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wa11banger>> dam right! i agree 100%

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