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12-07-2004 06:07 PM  13 years agoPost 1
iron_xl

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What gyro is better for my shogun.gy401 or jr500t?

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12-07-2004 06:42 PM  13 years agoPost 2
Dennis (RIP)

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Futaba GY-401 is the most popular. The MS Composit part # MS-044 is also a good HH Gyro.

........Dennis

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12-07-2004 07:34 PM  13 years agoPost 3
CRAZYKEV

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How does the MS-44 compare to a CSM-200 Dennis? I am looking to get a better gyro and have good things about the MS-44.

Kevin

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12-07-2004 07:44 PM  13 years agoPost 4
rstacy

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I have tried the
401 and CSM 560
Both work very well.

The CSM 200 will not meet your needs.

I also have heard good things about the MS-44 but have limited flight time with one.

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12-07-2004 07:50 PM  13 years agoPost 5
CRAZYKEV

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I do like that the CSM-560 is lighter for sure! The CSM-200 isn't a very good gyro, thats for sure! I have been living with mine until I can decide on which gyro to get. I have heard of some guys having problems with the CSM-560, but I don't think they had them setup correctly. Is there any wierd quirks with the CSM-560, maybe very vibration sensative like the CSM-200?

Kevin

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12-07-2004 07:52 PM  13 years agoPost 6
rstacy

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Is there any wierd quirks with the CSM-560, maybe very vibration sensative like the CSM-200?
Not that I am aware of. I own 4 of them and all have set up easily and worked very well.

I forgot to mention that 500T will work very well also.

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12-07-2004 08:17 PM  13 years agoPost 7
Dennis (RIP)

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The MS-044 stacks up equally to the Fuatba GY-401 in performance.

The MS Composit Gyro is lighter than the 401. It was designed specifically for Micro Electric Helis.

I have no experience with the JR Gyros here yet. So comparisons there would not be based on personal knowledge.

........Dennis

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12-07-2004 08:59 PM  13 years agoPost 8
CRAZYKEV

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So would the MS-44 mount on the side like my CSM or would I have to set up a mount for it like the 401. I am guessing that most guys are taking off the cover on the MS-44 and Shrink wrapping it. Correct?

Thanks Dennis,
Kevin

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12-07-2004 09:09 PM  13 years agoPost 9
CRAZYKEV

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Also, would I have to have a six channel RX to use the MS-44? I am planning on upgrading to a PCM R770 JR RX, but gotta buy them Christmas gifts man!

I have two little girls and they want everything! Wife says since I am buying my "toys" all year round that they better get alota' goodies!

Kevin

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12-07-2004 09:17 PM  13 years agoPost 10
Dennis (RIP)

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Most leave the case on the MS-044. It is quite a bit lighter than a 401. So, no need to remove the case. Besides, the way that gyro is constrcted, its best to leave the case on anyway. The 401 is a differant ball game with that case.

A mount behind your main mast for the gyro on a Shogun is always a good thing to keep the gyro as far away form the ESC as possible.

My best Holiday wishes to your family.

.........Dennis

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12-07-2004 09:35 PM  13 years agoPost 11
CRAZYKEV

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Thanks Dennis!

I was busy ordering some stuff from you guys!

Kevin

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12-07-2004 10:59 PM  13 years agoPost 12
iron_xl

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thanks for the info dennis,so performance and quality of the MS-044 are equal and it's lighter and cheaper?is it a dual or single gain?I have been having trouble with gyros sence day one so I want to get somthing high end that will do what it is supposed to.I was just looking at one on your site honestly is this thing top quality I dont want to take a chance on another crap gyro,I'm not saying I think it's crap it just seems to good to be true.I sure like the sound of it though.Do you know the weight differance between the ms and 401?

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12-07-2004 11:02 PM  13 years agoPost 13
turboomni

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rstacy,, what's the problem with your CSM200 gyro. It's the micro heading hold one correct?
I have that gyro and have had no problems at all, But then again you may be much better pilot than I and put the heli through stuff I can only dream of!
I would like to know your thoughts on the unit.

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12-07-2004 11:03 PM  13 years agoPost 14
BlakeMcBrayer

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I started out with the CSM-560 and completly HATED it. It is VERY vibration sensitive and gave me alot of other problems that were not vibe related. I took it off and adjusted it with a 3 lbs sledge hammer! It was replaced with a 401 and i have not had the first gyro problem since. The ONLY thing I would say good about the 560 was that it was lite. What good is lite if it doesn't work!

Don't come off the throttle untill you see your GOD!

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12-07-2004 11:14 PM  13 years agoPost 15
Rob_T

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MS-044 has remote gain adjust and a pot on the side if you dont use the remote gain (and if you do, the gain pot becomes a delay adjust pot instead.)

MS-044 certainly can be made to work quite nicely on the Shogun (it's what I use), but I'm not sure I agree with Dennis about it being on a par with the 401., but that might just be my poor setup skills

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12-07-2004 11:28 PM  13 years agoPost 16
rstacy

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rstacy,, what's the problem with your CSM200 gyro. It's the micro heading hold one correct?
It holds as well as you could expect an $89.00 gyro to hold which is good I guess because that is what it costs.
It's also a little on the large side.

Apparently Blake's was defective. I have never experieced the problems that he mentions. Obviously all CSM 560 gyros do not perform as poorly as Blake's

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12-07-2004 11:33 PM  13 years agoPost 17
BlakeMcBrayer

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rstacy,

I would have to agree with you, my buddy has one and it does O-Kay, maybe equal with 401. My 401 holds the tail in bacwards flight alittle better. My first 560 was bad out of the box and my second one was the one that meet Mr. Hammer.

Don't come off the throttle untill you see your GOD!

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12-07-2004 11:56 PM  13 years agoPost 18
iron_xl

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I think i'm still leanig towards the 401.anyone know the deferance in weight?

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12-08-2004 12:19 AM  13 years agoPost 19
BlakeMcBrayer

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560 = 11 grams

401 = 26 grams

BUT the 401 weight includes the rx and servo leads the 560 weight does not reflect these. if the 560 did include it would make it around 18-19 grams

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12-08-2004 12:19 PM  13 years agoPost 20
CRAZYKEV

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The CSM-200 was an O.K. gyro when all I was doing is hovering around and no fast movement. Now that I am way past that point in flight, I need a better gyro. I haven't really heard anyone dog the MS-44 and think it will be my choice. Only thing I have a problem with on the 401 is the weight and I know taking the case off is a big no no with this gyro.

Kevin

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