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10-24-2004 09:04 PM  13 years agoPost 1
trevorz

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Calgary, Alberta​Canada

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Hey all,

I've been playing around with the CP lately, and all I can say, is weeeee this thing is fun. Brushless setup, high authority geared tail, 3S lipoly pack, otherwise stock machine. Took it out in front of my house and was hovering around, got tons of vertical, did some loops and rolls. All in the comfort of my garage.

I must say that this machine flys WAY better then my FP ever did, and boy oh boy can't wait till Santa brings me a pro. Who needs nitro anyway???

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10-24-2004 09:59 PM  13 years agoPost 2
synchro505

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Topanga, CA

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Hi trevorz

That sounds like fun! Could you tell me (in sort of a brushless upgrade for dummies) how you put in the brushless motor and high authority tail motor? Which radio do you have and what electronics were involved onboard the heli to get it all to work? Thanks.

Mike

newbie - HB v3 as of 3 weeks ago

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10-24-2004 11:08 PM  13 years agoPost 3
genovia

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Who needs nitro anyway???
LOL... Don't go there, buddy, boy Nothing like nitro..

Anyways, Dude... I feel your triumphant joy all the way here in Cal.... Way to go, buddy.

and boy oh boy can't wait till Santa brings me a pro.

hehehehehehe.........Me too.. I basically slap the pic. as a wallpaper in my wife's computer at her work, so she won't forget to tell Santa to put one in my stockings of goodies, this Xmas

I been hearing good stuff about the PRO.....

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10-25-2004 12:14 AM  13 years agoPost 4
jameswill4

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Pineville KY

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Hey i have one on the way what setup are u using with that lipo pack? I am planning on ordering my stuff tommorrow and just trying to get the best setup. Is your tail motor holding up with that setup?

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10-25-2004 02:53 PM  13 years agoPost 5
RotorMarc

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If you start to burn up tail motors with that 3cell do yourself a favor and buy a brushless tail setup. Mine works great and no more burnt out motors.

I burnt out about 6 brushed motors with the 3 cell so that just about justified a bl setup in price. I just wish I would of gotten it sooner to save money.

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10-25-2004 03:16 PM  13 years agoPost 6
dankers

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Or just convert to DD and use the 12V GWS motors - handle 3S fine.

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10-25-2004 03:49 PM  13 years agoPost 7
RotorMarc

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http://www.gws.com.tw/english/product/MOTOR/MOTOR.HTM this not a direct link click on power system.

They don't sell a 12 volt motor. The motor that is used is CN12-R-XC
which is 7.2 volts. This motor doesn't last very long on voltages above 10 volts as the specs say in red and as I found out using them.

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10-25-2004 05:02 PM  13 years agoPost 8
trevorz

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Ok to answer some questions best I can.

I am using the Century Lightning brushless (CNE252) motor with a Castle Creations Phoenix 10 (PHX-10). To install the motor, you must drill out the bottom plate of the frame to clear the bottom bearing. I bought some shorter 2mm hex screws (I think they are 4 or 6 mm long). Mount the motor so there is a little bit of backlash on the gear mesh. May have to file out the slots for the screws a bit to be able to slide the motor around. I am using the stock 10 tooth pinion.

To connect the motor to the speed controller I used a Deans 3 pin connector. I really don't like the bullet connectors as you must add something on top of them to ensure they don't short out.

For the tail, I bought the century high authority tail (CNE253). It just bolts into the existing mount and has an extra support bracket. It is a geared setup, and so far the motor does not even get warm during flight. Unfortunately on the CP this motor must be run backwards, i.e. when connecting to your speed control connect positive to negative etc. This will get it turning the right way. Personally with these small motors I have seen a couple bad out of the box (one from century and one from GWS), so maybe buy 2 so you don't have to wait to return one, and you will have a spare. I am using the Castle Creation Pixie 7P speed control with it. On the tail speed control, I removed the red wire from the receiver connector, so the receiver is powered by the BEC of the main speed controller. I also disabled any low voltage or current cutoffs for this speed control.

I also removed any cutoffs for the main speed control, and I find I can easily tell when the system is getting low, the head speed starts to drop, and the punch isn't there. With the Apogee 830s I am using I get around 8 to 9 minutes of hovering/playing around. When I take the packs off and measure they are usually at 11.0 volts no load, or just below. Under load they do drop to around 8.

I am using an Airtronics Stylus for radio. To connect the two speed controlls to the battery I just connected the battery leads together using the Deans micro connector 2 pin.

I have probably a dozen flights on it so far, so I really cannot say how long the tail motor will last. I will update if it fails. The brushless setup is interesting, but a bit pricey to start, and I was worried about killing it in a crash. Also, since the Pro is coming I want this to be simpler heli.

Ask more questions if you like. I will try to answer specifics.

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