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10-23-2004 05:23 PM  13 years agoPost 1
RRuiz

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Puebla, Mexico

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If I have a gyro with the heading hold capability, it has to be turnned off practicing autorotations?
Heading hold gyro should be set to "rate" mode for autos?
Please comment

Roberto

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10-23-2004 05:47 PM  13 years agoPost 2
AGRAV8

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Mosquito​Coast......Houston​Texas

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No,

it can stay in HH mode.

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10-23-2004 05:49 PM  13 years agoPost 3
Drunk Monk

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Preston, UK

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Leave it in heading hold, no point making it more difficult.

What are you flying? Does it have a driven tail?


Stephen

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10-23-2004 07:51 PM  13 years agoPost 4
yugi

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Maryland

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I've started doing auto's and I leave mine on ALL the time. Ialso have a slipper clutch.

If you keep doing the same thing…...you’re going to get the same results!

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10-23-2004 07:56 PM  13 years agoPost 5
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In the start its a good idea to keep the heading hold on because then you have to train and focus on the collective only, if you had to watch the tail also this would yust make it harder. But when you are getting better with autos you can try to do some autos without the HH also.

But: if you got a bad gyro and a slow servo the tail will spin a bit when the head speed slows down quick because the gyro/servo are to slow to follow the lose of head speed - tail rotor speed.

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10-24-2004 06:02 PM  13 years agoPost 6
RRuiz

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Puebla, Mexico

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Thanks to all... I will practice with it ON

Roberto

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10-24-2004 06:38 PM  13 years agoPost 7
Drunk Monk

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It is safe to auto just about anything, the only limiting factor is whether or not you can do it. The raptor 50 has a driven tail so at least you will have control of the tail on the way down


Stephen

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10-24-2004 10:32 PM  13 years agoPost 8
Rob Shaw

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You just need to look at what JK did with a standard R50 (Quick UK Swash) at IRCHA this year to know it can handle auto's very well


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10-25-2004 12:31 AM  13 years agoPost 9
RRuiz

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Puebla, Mexico

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How many feet is the best to start with little autos?

Roberto

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10-26-2004 09:20 AM  13 years agoPost 10
Ringding

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Austria

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1', to get a feeling of the landing.

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10-26-2004 01:42 PM  13 years agoPost 11
RotorX

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London

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Once you have done a few, get the bird down low and then before you land it bleed all the extra headspeed off, this will help you understand how much hang time you heli has.

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10-26-2004 04:34 PM  13 years agoPost 12
Davo

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The only problem I can think of with using HH during autos occurs if you have a non-driven tail e.g. Logo 10 or Raptor 30 AND you bail out.

While the tail is weathervaning and since it has no power, the gyro may well put in full servo travel trying to compensate for any heading deviations. Now if you bail out you may find the heli pirouetting until everything catches up with itself.

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10-26-2004 05:12 PM  13 years agoPost 13
TMoore

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Cookeville, TN

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This has been discussed at length, HH or rate it doesn't matter, driven or not. If you slam the throttle on either with a non driven tail the machine is going to pirouette. Do a search for relevant threads and you will find a pretty lengthy discussion on it.

We have a number of new fliers here where I live with non driven tail Raps and they all learned to auto with HH on.

Terry

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