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10-22-2004 06:27 PM  13 years agoPost 1
ThanatosRC

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Hi All

So tomorrow, my first r/c Heli is arriving. - I can't wait. A Robbe Eolo Pro (Spirit?) - Whats the deal with 'Spirit'?

Hacker C40 Engine
Hacker 7-70 Speed Controller
4100mah LiPoly Thunder Power Battery
Robbe Ultimate Charger
Robbe Trainer Under carridge
JR 2610 PCM Receiver + 4x JR 591 Servos
Futaba GY240 Gyro

Any bits I forgotten? Any bits I shouldn't of got? Whats the average build time?

Thanks for all help (no doubt you will be getting lots of questions from me... :^)

Regards

Richard

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10-22-2004 09:26 PM  13 years agoPost 2
Si_B

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You might want to put the third bearing upgrade on whilst you are building the machine. With the power you will get from your set-up, it's not worth the risk of a stripped gear.

Apart from that, enjoy.........you've just bought a great machine.

Regards,

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10-22-2004 11:27 PM  13 years agoPost 3
Reesy

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Decent hex drivers
591's ?? a bit big
credit card
LHS in your moby

Paul

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10-23-2004 01:43 AM  13 years agoPost 4
ThanatosRC

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Too Big?

You reckon the 591 will be too big? What for *all* the servos? or just the tail servo?

If so what would you recommend?

I did ask when ordering, if I had all the bits, and the shop recommended the JR set... hmmmm....

You really confused me about the 'LHS', I understand now, maybe its due to it being quarter to 2 in the morning

Thanks again

Richard

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10-23-2004 10:18 AM  13 years agoPost 5
Reesy

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Hi Richard
Basically a 591 is going to be practically useless in a Eolo, too big for cyclics and too slow n heavy for the tail.
Do a search through the Eolo forum for servo's then come back if you have specific queries.
3 HS81 's will do for cyclics but a decent tailservo/gyro combo will soon pay for itself in saved crash costs

Paul

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10-23-2004 11:09 AM  13 years agoPost 6
ThanatosRC

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Got my kit now, It didnt come with 591s

It came with four 'JR SuperTek Max/BB', these are alot smaller than the 591s...

Will these be ok?

Thanks

Richard

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10-23-2004 11:22 AM  13 years agoPost 7
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If you want a cheap tail servo go for the Jr 810g (£51 doesnt sound cheap but for a tail servo it is) Its the same sise as the 591's but it can be put on the original tail servo mount , i have one on mine and it locks the tail even in hard wind. its a great combo with the gy240. From what ive seen there are no mini servos on the market that would compare to a larger dedicated tail servo.

And you wont get a hs81 to lock it will just keep wagging.

Lee

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10-23-2004 11:28 AM  13 years agoPost 8
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Update...

Other bits that I got, that I didn't realise...

JR R800 PCM 'S' 8ch Receiver 35mhz
Kontronik Twist 37 Motor, not the Hacker.
(Still got a hacker 77-0 controller)

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10-23-2004 02:19 PM  13 years agoPost 9
Reesy

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I've got an 810g you can have for £20

Paul

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10-23-2004 04:14 PM  13 years agoPost 10
ThanatosRC

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HiTec?

I've just found two HiTec Digital Servos, I've never used:

HS-5625MG (6v, 0.13/60', 6.8kg.cm)
HS-5645MG (6v, 0.18/60', 9.6kg.cm)

I purchased these for my nitro car a year back, but never used them (still in the boxes), will one of these do for the tail servo?

Sorry for the dumb questions...

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Richard

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10-23-2004 04:20 PM  13 years agoPost 11
garth2

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I Would say that they would be a bit slow for a tail servo It needs to be at most 0.1 or less.

Lee

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10-23-2004 04:30 PM  13 years agoPost 12
ThanatosRC

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typical....

A money bit already, and I haven't even built it yet!

Thanks, you guys have been a great help already...

Regards

Richard

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10-23-2004 07:03 PM  13 years agoPost 13
ThanatosRC

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So its a money pit already...

Ok then, so I did need some more bits... man wife is going to go crazy....

You say the 3nd bearing upgrade, is that the heliup '3rd Bearing Block Upgrade' which is around £22?

If I'm going to put in an order for bits, what other 'upgrades' should be on my 'top 5' list?

Heliup - Tail Gearbox Upgrade (£45)
Quk - Aluminium Swashplate (£40)
Quk - Alloy Headblock (£35)
Quk - Tail Bearing Block (£15)
Robbe Aliuminium Tail Gearbox (£85) - is this the same as the heliup one?

Will be ordering from Midland, so any other bits, please point out! ;-)

Cheers

Richard

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10-23-2004 07:23 PM  13 years agoPost 14
garth2

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All of them are not needed accept the 3rd bearing( the robbe is as good and cheaper from midland) mine flys great stock.

Just ballance the whole tail assembly on the tail output shaft to eliminate any vibes.

Lee

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10-23-2004 09:59 PM  13 years agoPost 15
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Thanks

Thanks garth2

Ok I will look into the Robbe version.

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10-24-2004 06:42 AM  13 years agoPost 16
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I go with Garth2's opinion.

I have two Eolos. One full of extras and one almost stock with only a do-it-yourself third bearing mod (some kind of third bearing mod is essential as it will pay for itself many times over), Twist 37 in both. Your drive wire will benefit from some king of bearing mod in the boom eventually.

Trust me, you can spend a fortune on the extras, and yes they are nice, but I doubt they will greatly improve your chances of learning to fly if this is your first R/C Heli. On my stock Eolo I use a cheap HS81 servo on the tail, through a Micro 560 CSM gyro and it works fine for normal flying in calm conditions.

If it's your first heli, did you get yourself a training undercarriage?

You don't need to make it a money pit (like I have!!) as a carefully assembled stock Eolo will get you into the air just fine.

Good luck and let us know how you get on with it as it becomes more addictive.

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10-24-2004 09:10 AM  13 years agoPost 17
ThanatosRC

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Thanks Dave

Well I'm going to try and get some free time today and give the instructions a good doing over before I start to assemble it. Yes its my first heli...I've got XTR on order, and hopefully some training in a months time...

Ok, wife will be pleased only an extra £8 then :-) - I think I've found the robbe version.

Oh yeah, the blades say they are already balanced - is that right?

Could you point me in the direction of this 'Bearing Mod in the Boom', I'm keeping notes of all this info...

Again, thanks, so far this forum has been nothing but nice and friendly advice...

Cheers

Richard

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10-24-2004 10:37 AM  13 years agoPost 18
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The heliup tail drive mod can be seen at MH:
http://www.modelhelicopters.co.uk/a...des_Heliup.html
I use a DIY job, just glued some bearings in to the standard guides, which seem to be holding up OK. With three of the standard bushes in the boom it should be a while before you need to upgrade.

Most of the so called ready-to-fly blades I've ever had were in need of balancing. Some were miles out. In fact, with the Eolo, the wooden blades I used to buy when I first got it were far better balanced than the expensive carbon / glass ones.

It is also worth balancing the tail blades, even though they are generally pretty good out of the box.

Also, check the pinion you have is compatible the your motor / battery combinination. With the Twist 37 and a 3 series lipo pack I use a 14 tooth pinion, which results in a head speed of somewhere around 2000 rpm.

Agree with you about this forum. Being a relative beginner at this game, I always check here for advice and opinions. The search function is also extremely useful.
Enjoy,
Dave

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10-24-2004 07:18 PM  13 years agoPost 19
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Try my "tube for the wire drive" works great on mine with no signs of wear. its on this eolo bit of the forum read the replies and the instructions its dirt cheap to do. And the tube can be bought from midland.

Lee

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