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10-21-2004 03:41 PM  13 years agoPost 1
dragonlord

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Are there any guys on the board that fly helies from a wheel chair.

I have two freinds that are in chairs and have a raptor between them

there just finished building it and had it checked over and test flown but haven had a good day yet for there first fllte.

ie uk weather

If there are and other guys in chairs do you have any tips for them.

one other guy they met who said that he has to keep it infrount or to the side as turnning around is a job.

we haden hadent thort of that untill he metioned it

If there are and other guys in chairs do you have any tips for them.

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10-21-2004 04:05 PM  13 years agoPost 2
webbhost

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id say just cuz they r in chairs dont make em no different. at the end of the day they can learn to control it as easy as we can, they shud just keep heli safe distance cuz they cant jump out the way like us.

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10-21-2004 04:10 PM  13 years agoPost 3
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10-21-2004 04:26 PM  13 years agoPost 4
dragonlord

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thanks guys i know they will be able fly ok but like we hadant thort about if it flying it past you

like i can turn around but like the guy said it a bit hard wheeling and holding a tx at the same time.

so keep it in frount he said
and i just wondend if other had other ovous think whe hadent fort of.

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10-21-2004 04:31 PM  13 years agoPost 5
gt900uk

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At most club u will be standing on the 'flightline' with the pits area behind so you prob wont be flying it behind as this would be a no fly area Cant see it being a problem for them

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10-21-2004 10:25 PM  13 years agoPost 6
Furious Predator

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Would it not be possible for a disabled person to have a buddy behind him and turn the chair while he flies? Probably wanna do it on a smooth surface so the wheels dont go over bumps and jerk his hands on the TX.

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10-21-2004 10:29 PM  13 years agoPost 7
webbhost

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maybe you should mod his wheelchair to make that remote controlled :P switch 1 turn left switch 2 turn right LoL would be quite funny if somsone succeeded in that actually.

meh

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10-21-2004 10:58 PM  13 years agoPost 8
Agilefalcon

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I've seen two guys who have used a collective pitch mechanism in their mouths! They flew great too.

I think if you have a physical handicap of some sort, that flying helicopters would be an awesome way to excercise the mind. I am sure that a suitable radio system could be put together for just about any physcial disability.

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10-21-2004 10:58 PM  13 years agoPost 9
dragonlord

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one of the guy would kill his self larthing about the moded chair.

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10-21-2004 11:42 PM  13 years agoPost 10
flipped2left

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That gives me some thought here............years ago i met a guy that was selling a kavan jet ranger because he was wheelchair bound but i must've said something to the fact he decided to keep it.

Here recently i had landed a job that pertained to handicapped persons enableing(sp?) them to drive vehicles(cars,vans,trucks) and now this has been brought up i will look into this this and see what may and can be done! ken

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10-22-2004 12:53 AM  13 years agoPost 11
bmartin

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Calgary, Alberta

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I am in a wheelchair, I have built a trailer that I use to pull my stuff around.

I can pull my heli to the field, start it, back up, and fly it by myself.

My dad "BC DON" also comes out to fly with me and when that happens he helps me out

See my gallery their are some photos of me flying in the wheelchair

Brian

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10-22-2004 12:59 AM  13 years agoPost 12
flipped2left

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BMARTIN> so what blade length and pitch are you using on your wheelchair? all kidding aside,i transport my heli on a 10-speed using a kiddie cart behind it.

you know that thought never really occured to me but i may look into that since i work for this company,maybe i can come up with a solution with the help of other RR members here. ken

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10-22-2004 02:47 AM  13 years agoPost 13
bdphil

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Dothan, AL

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I've been in a wheelchair for 4 years now and learned to fly from it. There a number of things that I have found to be an inconvenience, but almost nothing that couldn't be overcome. The degree of the disability is more of a consideration than just being in a wheelchair.

Some of the things that need to be taken into account when flying from a wheelchair are:

Safety. Important for anyone to consider, but if you can't jump out of the way, it's a constant concern. I don't fly alone, and I let my my blades spool down on their own (it's hard to hang off the side of a wheelchair and reach the head button over 690's).

Have a spotter. I don't worry much about flying into myself anymore, but I've almost been hit a couple times by other peoples' models.

You can't turn a wheelchair around in grass while flying. I got a little outta control with one of my planes and ended up leaning over the back of the chair and flying with my head inverted. Got it back OK, but don't want to try it again.

Fly gassers. Less stuff to carry from the truck to the pits. Luckily, the guys I fly with are some of the best folks I've ever met and always offer to help carry stuff.

Other than those things, it's not really a problem.

Ben

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10-22-2004 03:13 AM  13 years agoPost 14
Peter Wales

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Problems when flying from a wheelchair? Mainly getting the heli out to the field. You cant carry all your stuff and push at the same time, and if its muddy in the field, your hands are a mess when it comes to flying.

My solution was in an electric wheelchair. Put a connector on the side to use the chair batteries to start the heli, save one item to carry. Heli guys are generally such a great group, you will have to fight people off trying to help you and thats a great help, unless you are like me, Mr Independant, I dont need no help!!!

Select your flying position carefully. Once the heli is in the air, you cant move, be sure you are comfortable where you are. Dont try andget someone to move you, you will crash as your balance isn't as good as it needs to be.

Helis are a great leveller. There is nothing an able bodied person can do that a wheelchair driver cant do. I am the US national scale heli champion and have been for the last 3 years and am proud of it.

The biggest problem I have in England is getting into heli stores to buy stuff. Theres always a step or 6 and they aren't wheelchair accessible unlike here in the US. I do understand Midland helis new shop is accessible so I will be checking them out when I get back next year.

Best of luck to you and your friends

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10-22-2004 09:44 AM  13 years agoPost 15
Jan Kos

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Lelystad, the​Netherlands

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I'm thinking about changing to an electric heli, the fumes, weight and all the extra gear I need now for my Moskito makes it almost imposible to fly at the moment. (fysical problems)
There is a guy in Holland, he runs a flying school, which is also disabled and flies his heli's from a wheelchair.
He started out originally flying a gasser, but changed since handling a e-heli is so much easier. You don't need a buddy for your gear etc.

Jan

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10-22-2004 12:24 PM  13 years agoPost 16
GM1

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An Aside

This is slightly off topic but I need to vent here. While I am mobile, I do have a handicap parking placard due to an spinal injury that occurred several years ago. I petitioned my local club to create a handicapped parking space for the two of us that were placarded and the vote was overwhelmingly in favor of it so I bought a sign and placed it at the field on a space next to the loading zone. Since then, the other gentleman passed away and I try to use a normal parking space since I usually arrive early enough to get a "good" parking space. I am fortunate that most days I can park anywhere, and carry all my crap to the pits but a few days a year, I really need to park right next to the gate and might even need a little help getting my gear out of the car. Many times now, the HC parking space is in use by someone that has no physical problem but that arrived later and decided to park there so as not to have to walk 150 ft to get their car. Since we have a loading and unloading area, carrying stuff shouldn't be a problem, pull in and unload, go park, and then go get the car/truck/van and pull into the loading area to load when you are ready to leave. I have asked several of them why they park there and the reply was, noone was using it and they would be happy to move if it was needed. When I told them that if it was needed, and was already in use, noone would ask., they just shrugged and walked away mumbling, usually something about an "@sshole", and "just because he can park there......" You get my drift.
While I can be a butt and make an issue of it, I would prefer not to be. For many people, that parking space is not a luxury, but very much a necessity. Be aware. I feel better now, thanks.
Gordie

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10-22-2004 02:53 PM  13 years agoPost 17
bdphil

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Dothan, AL

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GM1,

Tell them to stay out of the handicap spot. Does the sign you put up have fines stated on it? Have the club start enforcing the fines.

People don't realize that handicap parking spots aren't only for people who can't walk very far. They are also wider and have more space between them. I have a handicap parking placard and I do usually park in handicap parking places. Because it's closer, no. Because in order to get in and out of my truck I need the door open the whole way and I need room to break down my wheelchair. I've had a few instances where people have parked right next to my door (even in handicap spots) and I had to either wait for the idiot to come move their car, or get someone to move mine. It's hard to keep your cool when that happens.

Ben

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10-22-2004 03:03 PM  13 years agoPost 18
dragonlord

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thanks guy for all the replys.


looks like it wont be too much of a problem

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10-22-2004 10:42 PM  13 years agoPost 19
woody

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Nothwest Pa.

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Me too!

Wow,
I guess there are more disabled pilots than I thought. I am stuck in a chair too. I have a wagon made up with a hinged lid to pull all my stuff with. I put my radio gear, fuel & starter underneath, and put my heli on top with a couple skid holders to keep it in place. The guys I fly with are great though about helping me out with the starting & taking it out to the 'flight line' or anything else for that matter.
It can be funny too, I had an incident a short time ago when after I landed, I hit the cut switch, then proceded to reach up to collapse my antenna. When I did this, some how I flipped over backwards out of my chair!
-Woody

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