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10-20-2004 11:08 PM  13 years agoPost 1
webbhost

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If im right glowsticks have a fluid in the middle right? What do you tihnk wold happen if the glow stick was opened, and a helicopter was painted in the glowfluid

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10-20-2004 11:22 PM  13 years agoPost 2
orlee008

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remember that when you break a glow stick it mixes the two chemicals together and it glows. after a few hours it dies down and doesnt glow any more.

so to answer your question? if you can paint it, it will never dry and it will only last a few hours. after that its like you never did anything.

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10-20-2004 11:36 PM  13 years agoPost 3
old_but_wise

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We use glow stick for night fly on heli's like most do. We have cracked one, shaken it, and cut it opent, spashing it over ourselves in the process (and yes we did glow). Although we didn't poor it over a heli we did poor it Ade's foam plank.

We did sample it on the tip of a wing to see if it ate the foam, all was well. So we poor'd pretty patterns all over it. It worked a treat, it was completly visible and really good fun.

But and theres always a but! the following day foam plan was no more, it did melt the plan over night!!! But hell, it was fun and made the night flying even more interesting.

d.

PS, the stuff on our clothes and over the back of Gary's truck kept glowing a little for a few days!

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10-20-2004 11:48 PM  13 years agoPost 4
Sar

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Try it in the smoke tank on a plane sometime

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10-21-2004 02:20 AM  13 years agoPost 5
Ivan

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I tseems to me that the glow in the dark stickers kids have now days is a lot brighter than it used to be when I was a kid. I know they use this same kind of stuff to paint the hands of some watches (non indiglo). I think It was called Radium, or something like that. So, now, why couldn't a guy paint his cabin with that stuff. You would have to recharge it under the sun for a while before dark, but I think it would work well, and even the fins could be painted.

Who knows, maybe I should have copyrighted this before I spouted off!

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10-21-2004 04:38 PM  13 years agoPost 6
Sar

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I don't think they use Radium on watches anymore, enough watchmakers suffered for it. Also I think a heli painted with Radium would probably darken a spot on the wall it was hung on over time

The stuff they have now(for quite a while actually) is non-radioactive, which is a bonus, they have just developed better methods of manufacturing it and making it more efficient.

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10-21-2004 04:42 PM  13 years agoPost 7
steve69

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Here you go, this is what is in glow sticks these days

What is a Lightstick and How Does it Operate?
Lightsticks or glowsticks are used by trick-or-treaters, divers, campers, and for decoration and fun! A lightstick is a plastic tube with a glass vial inside of it. In order to activate a lightstick, you bend the plastic stick, which breaks the glass vial. This allows the chemicals that were inside the glass to mix with the chemicals in the plastic tube. Once these substances contact each other, a reaction starts taking place. The reaction releases light, causing the stick to glow!

A Chemical Reaction Releases Energy
One form of energy is light. Some chemical reactions release energy; the chemical reaction in a lightstick releases energy in the form of light. The light produced by this chemical reaction is called chemiluminescence.

Although the light-producing reaction is not caused by heat and may not produce heat, the rate at which it occurs is affected by temperature. If you place a lightstick in a cold environment (like a freezer), then the chemical reaction will slow down. Less light will be released while the lightstick is cold, but the stick will last much longer. On the other hand, if you immerse a lightstick in hot water, the chemical reaction will speed up. The stick will glow much more brightly, but will wear out faster too.

What's Involved?
There are three components of a lightstick. There need to be two chemicals that interact to release energy and also a fluorescent dye to accept this energy and convert it into light. Although there is more than one recipe for a lightstick, a common commercial lightstick uses a solution of hydrogen peroxide that is kept separate from a solution of a phenyl oxalate ester together with a fluorescent dye. The color of the fluorescent dye is what determines the resulting color of the lightstick when the chemical solutions are mixed. The basic premise of the reaction is that the reaction between the two chemicals releases enough energy to excite the electrons in the fluorescent dye. This causes the electrons to jump to a higher energy level and then fall back down and release light.

Specifically, the chemical reaction works like this: The hydrogen peroxide oxidizes the phenyl oxalate ester, to form phenol and an unstable peroxyacid ester. The unstable peroxyacid ester decomposes, resulting in phenol and a cyclic peroxy compound. The cyclic peroxy compound decomposes to carbon dioxide. This decomposition reaction releases the energy that excites the dye.


Taken from here

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10-21-2004 05:38 PM  13 years agoPost 8
Sar

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Thats excellent for sticks, what's in the stickers? I know actually, just being a pest, thanks for the good info post tho.

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10-21-2004 05:47 PM  13 years agoPost 9
webbhost

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interesting. Cant you leave glowsticks in the sun to recharge through? If so then why cant you emmerse your canopy in the fluid then leave the canopy in the sun to charge

meh

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10-21-2004 07:31 PM  13 years agoPost 10
BigChopper

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I once had one break while I was night flying and it created a flume of glowing liquid coming out of the back of the heli... it's looked great!!

You can stop them by putting them in the freezer and then re-heating to get the glow back...
Once though, I took one out of the freezer and warmed it up with the microwave.. put it in a little too long (about 30secs), it exploded in there and the inside of the microwave was glowing nice n bright!

This is another of the million experiments you can try with a microwave!!!

Andy

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10-21-2004 08:39 PM  13 years agoPost 11
webbhost

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I once had one break while I was night flying and it created a flume of glowing liquid coming out of the back of the heli... it's looked great!!
sounds interesting. maybe poking a few holes in one would look cool so it slowly drains itself out as you fly

meh

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10-21-2004 09:32 PM  13 years agoPost 12
sweetP

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Glow in dark paint

Check with your LHS. The one that I shop at sells glow in the dark paint. We used it on a friends car (full size car) we painted a bad word on the back window. During the day the glow paint was nearly invisible but, when the sun went down our art work was clearly visible. Sorry about that dude, heres a razor scraper.

What was my tag line? AMA 139721

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10-21-2004 10:04 PM  13 years agoPost 13
webbhost

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cool ill have to have a look for some but ill get the chopper itself up first

meh

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10-21-2004 10:30 PM  13 years agoPost 14
webbhost

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by the way i got a question. In gallery i see pics of night flyers and they have what seems to be lights wrapped around the plane. Is this just flexible glowsticks or what? i dont plan to buy any yet but where do you get them from?

meh

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10-21-2004 11:45 PM  13 years agoPost 15
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You'll get a good idea of what you need at http://www.nightflying.co.uk

They are glow wire/ropes that you see attached to the canopy and wrapped around the boom.

Andy

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10-25-2004 10:34 AM  13 years agoPost 16
ChrisMG

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I would seriously advise against splitting open these glowsticks and pouring the contents over your canopy (looks good at the time ) but the dye will dry in and stick to the canopy and u wull have a VERY hard time getting it off ( you will basically have a ruined canopy) and if the contents gets on your clothes they will also be ruined

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10-25-2004 10:45 AM  13 years agoPost 17
Stu.

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Glow ropeSurelight

You can get a 2000hz inveter and TONNES fo rope very little, and they are the cheapes I have found.

This stuff is bright during the day, never mind at night!

Stu

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10-25-2004 02:16 PM  13 years agoPost 18
crash1953

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One thing we do is cut them open and outline the LZ.with the stuff also a path to and from the benches .. It really looks cool at nite..Another thing is cut the glow sticks open and pour the contents into an jug ..then top it off with water ..Take that up and drop it like a bomb from the heli at the landing zone and have fun .. When it hits the ground it will light up everything ...

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10-26-2004 12:26 PM  13 years agoPost 19
webbhost

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would it be possible to pierce 2 holes in a stick, one underneath one on top, then fly the heli around leaving a glowline behind you where the glowstick is slowly draining itself as you fly. i think that wold look kool, just as long as you dont go inverted

meh

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10-31-2004 10:07 PM  13 years agoPost 20
old_but_wise

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Hi, as I said above we have cut them open and they are fun, but I cant imagine its all that environmentally friendly!

Here's a url for a company that I brought a shed load of stuff from. Although they are based in Montana the price of wire, the drivers.. and a few 10" lengths of wire was cheaper than the UK and didn't take long to get here.

http://www.abellrc.com/new_page_1.htm

We also brought some landing lights:

http://www.glowire.com/Merchant2/me...tegory_Code=LED

the 3 Light Blue led spread looks really cool and makes landing so much easier. We have them connected to a servo switch and running of an aux port so that when we idle-up they cut off and as we come into land and return to idle everything lights up, including the following stobes:

http://www.glowire.com/Merchant2/me...Category_Code=H

We also brought a box of 50 glow sticks for about 29ukp from

http://www.glow-sticks.org/

Nightfly is so cool, we didn't stop untill about 2am! Just make sure you have 3, 4 points of failure, Blade(s), Glow wire and Glow sticks.


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