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10-20-2004 08:54 PM  13 years agoPost 1
jjp

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OK, I've decided to go with the Century hawk sport. From what I understand the 4 channel JR Quattro radio will fly this bird, but I won't be able to do loops and such, which I think will be fine for a while. What type of servo's and electronics do I need. I have 4 JR 527servo's, and a JR 6 channel receiver and the above mentioned Quattro radio. What else do I need to get if I buy the Hawk sport kit with engine only. I know I will need a gyro, which one?

All suggestion will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, jjp

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10-20-2004 09:04 PM  13 years agoPost 2
SteveH

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jjp,

If you insist on using the Quatro radio, a four channel, there is no need in getting a "good" gyro. Most of the popular models, 401 as an example, will need another channel to control the rate and mode, so based on that, I'd recommend something like the Futaba 240 or the CSM 200.

Keep in mind that using a four channel radio on a helicopter will severly limit your flight capablities as well as setup capabilities. You will have to gang the throttle and collective channels onto the same servo, so the setup will be all mechanical. That means that whatever head speed you end up with will not be able to be changed without changing the mechanical setup. Not saying it won't work, but it will be difficult and very limited.

My actual first heli was set up like that with a four channel radio, and I learned to hover that way, but I just want to warn you of the limitations and that you will soon want to upgrade the transmitter.

As far as servos are concerned, I usually recommend no less than a ball bearing supported servo, even for the entry level Hawk Sport. Not familiar with the 527's, are they ball bearing supported?

The government cannot give you anything without first taking it from someone else.

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10-20-2004 10:14 PM  13 years agoPost 3
jjp

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Century hawk

Steve H.

You have convinced me and I will take your advice and buy the whole kit from century that comes with the 6 channel radio. This sounds to me like the better deal in the long run. The servo's I have are not ball bearings and I think the $559.00 deal at Centruy sounds good for a beginner heli. Unless you know of a better deal for a whole kit.

Thanks, jjp

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10-20-2004 10:19 PM  13 years agoPost 4
blockatvalpo

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I'd buy the Hawk Sport and engine from heli-world, then get the RD8000 $300 (heli-world), hh gyro from (heli-world or heliproz). This will last you longer IMO. Spend a little more now, because it is worth it in the end. I started with the RD6000 only got rid of it because I wanted more channels. Price around for the different items. ronlund.com has the hawk sport as well.

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10-20-2004 11:45 PM  13 years agoPost 5
SteveH

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jjp,

Blockatvalpo is right. If you can afford it, and only you can answer that question, you cannot go wrong buying better electronics.

The government cannot give you anything without first taking it from someone else.

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10-21-2004 12:23 AM  13 years agoPost 6
Buzzin Brian

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Absolutly correct. Look at it this way, long after you have moved onto a better heli, your radio will still remain. If you go ultra low end with your radio now, you will regret it later. And will also likely wind up spending more in the end to upgrade than you would have just getting the right stuff from the beginning. Buy the best radio gear you can afford now, and enjoy the hobby would be my suggestion.

Build it, fly it, crash it. Repeat as often as needed.

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10-21-2004 06:02 PM  13 years agoPost 7
BC Don

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If you want a bit better radio, get the Hawk Kit that comes with the Futaba 7CH with digital 3151 servoes - that's the route I went. Says that Channel 7 can be used for a Governor which should get you into a space to control pretty well everything out there.

Moving up will get you more features but I don't know that they are "indispensible".

The Hawk Sport with the 7CH is only $10 more than going with the 6 channel JR radio - certainly worth the extra 10 bucks in my opinon.

As soon as you start to piece together your own solution you'll add at least $200 to the $569.95 price for the Hawk Kit! I know because I tried to go that route through Century plus 2 other mail order houses - find the best price on an item and add them all together and the price is WAY more.

Get the Hawk Sport kit. If you find that you want to upgrade then do so. Want an OS .37 or more then get it, want a Heading Hold Gyro then get it. BUT, get the basic item first, learn on it and figure out what extras you want and get them.

Got Money? Send it to me, I'm a Heli Addict.

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10-22-2004 04:53 AM  13 years agoPost 8
MUGGA

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I wish more ppl knew you could fly a Hawk with a 4 ch radio. I found out too late

I've been flying my hummingbird with a Quattro for a year now.

I got a used scale Hawk a few months back (I love it) but I also got a RX FUTABA T6XA from the same guy to fly it.

I'm a SUCKER. I've surfed this forum for almost a year now. I've asked I'f you can fly a CP heli with a 4ch. This is the first time I've heard it said that you can.

I dumped $200 CDN on a TX I didn't need ( figured it out on my first flight) all I wanted was a JR 6102. I'm a sucker

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10-22-2004 05:29 AM  13 years agoPost 9
MUGGA

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Whats $200 CDN ? Like $300 US? well lets see what the market sayes tomorrow Just kidding you guy can bounce back.

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10-23-2004 04:17 PM  13 years agoPost 10
Squid

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Montana

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I tried running my heli off of 4 servoes. When I first got it, I too was trying to spend the least amount of money. I finally got sick of working on it adjusting everything trying to get it to fly, so I bought a Hitec 7 channel tx and think that's the best upgrade I've done to it. And it's right around $200, not bad at all. Since then I've put a 401/9254 gyro combo in it, carbon blades on, and training gear off. I love it. I went from never flying a heli, to taking the training gear off and flying around in the time it took to fly two gallons of fuel through it.

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10-23-2004 10:26 PM  13 years agoPost 11
oldfart

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Vancouver, Canada

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mugga

Just to keep everything clear for the novices to R/C helicopters.

There is a difference with running a Hawk, which has a mechanical CCPM system, on a four channel radio and trying to operate a heli that uses an electronic CCPM system such as the Predator series, Raven series or Hummingbird Elite CP series. These will all require a radio system that has a transmitter that has dedicated eCCPM swashmixing software.

Also of note is some 4 channel radio systems designed for micro helicopters and park flyers do not have the required range to fly glow driven units like the Hawk.

Phil

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