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10-20-2004 12:55 PM  13 years agoPost 1
blazek

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Looking to buy a new heli... anyone uses X-CELL Gas Graphite Helicopter for aerials??? and what kind of mount???
i found it at this price 1500usd and it is the Kit w/o Blades (Incl. Engine,Muffler and recoil Starter) is it a good price???
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10-20-2004 01:04 PM  13 years agoPost 2
SteveH

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John,

Just an FYI, Miniature Aircraft does not recommend using the Carbon framed gasser for lifting any loads. They recommend replacing the carbon upper frames with the aluminum version for any lifting such as aerial photography.

The government cannot give you anything without first taking it from someone else.

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10-20-2004 01:19 PM  13 years agoPost 3
wwellman

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GAS X-CELL for aerials

John,
I've been using an X-cell gasser for aerial photography for the last 2 years. I have a RotorKraft retract mount. I fly 700mm V tec blades. I have 500 + hours on the heli doing aerial photography. The heli cost around $1,200
V tec blades $120
RotorKraft retract mount with telemetry , servos,and batteries $1,300

I can't say enough about the RotorKraft mount. I've had absolutly no problems with the mount, it's rock steady and can take a beating. There are all kinds of good quality mounts out there but I wanted one that cound have an unobstructed view, when you retract the landing gear the camera hangs below the heli and can pan 360 and tilt 180 without running into any part of the mount. Works great for hovering in between tree tops ,tail in, for the close low shot I sometimes need in real estate shots. This mount can pan without the need to rotate the heli which can get real exciting in windy gusty conditions.

Walter
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10-20-2004 01:50 PM  13 years agoPost 4
ImRich

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I use the Gas X-Cell and it works well.

As to the upper frame reinforcement, this can be handled in a few different ways. One way is documented in my gallery.

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10-20-2004 02:54 PM  13 years agoPost 5
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John,

I also use the X-cell, very stable, and have not had any problems. Very good machine! I run the 710 blades with the extended boom, and aluminum upper frames. Mounts.......I use both Airfoil and Helicam Solutions, it handles them both very well. Although I will say I'm more comfortable using the Berg with the 26 when shooting video and using the gyro....the extra power is the comfort. I may look at putting a 26 in the X-cell.

Tanner

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10-20-2004 03:06 PM  13 years agoPost 6
Dr. Fibinotchi

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more good on xcell

I did use my xcell for a couple jobs and my partiular config was metal upper and graphite lower with the rotorkraft config. Kevin is a good guys and knows his S***. Make sure you adjust your gear ratio and not use 6.42 but something higher if you are swinging 720 plus club. You will fall out of your torque band easy with the weight and the wind.

-Dr. Fibinotchi

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10-20-2004 03:31 PM  13 years agoPost 7
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I use X-Cell gas with G231 engine and 720mm blades for camera view flying. It's an excellent machine and at 18lb take off weight is still handles with ease. I have 12 gallons of fuel through it and there was not a single case of engine quitting on me. Making the engine run smoothly may be a little tricky but there is plenty of know-how on this forum.
I vouch for RotorKraft mount - had very good experience with Kevin and with his product.

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10-20-2004 03:56 PM  13 years agoPost 8
blazek

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10-20-2004 03:57 PM  13 years agoPost 9
blazek

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thnx a lot guys

for the quick reply
now what about the price for 1500 usd that's including the Kit w/o Blades (Incl. Engine,Muffler and recoil Starter) is it a good price???
or do i have to search for another dealer???

SteveH wrote:
They recommend replacing the carbon upper frames with the aluminum version for any lifting such as aerial photography.
what about it? do i have to change the upper frame or it will do it's job ok with the carbon?

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john

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10-20-2004 04:48 PM  13 years agoPost 10
Dr. Fibinotchi

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well..

IF you did want to have carbon upper the only way I would trust it is with using heli dog mod with the much thicker tighter weave carbon with the reinforcemtn plate around the main shaft area. I know his carbon is much much better than the flimsy stuff the fatory gives you. Otherwise go metal on upper. I think I have metal uppers laying around if you needed some. this will give you some piece of mind like the guys above stated.

-Cody

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10-20-2004 05:07 PM  13 years agoPost 11
SteveH

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Just Want Everyone to Understand

I was not trying to bash the Minature Aircraft gasser. I have had several of them and they are fine ships, but what I stated about the upper side frames is what MA themselves say. I read about it first on the Rick's RC Helicopter site.

The government cannot give you anything without first taking it from someone else.

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10-20-2004 08:10 PM  13 years agoPost 12
daggit

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blazek

If you follow the link on the RunRyder ad to "Ricks" they have them listed for $1150. I suppose shipping it to Greece would add a considerable amount. 30 lbs shipping wieght.

Ricks is good to order from and they carry a lot of X-cell parts.

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10-20-2004 08:19 PM  13 years agoPost 13
blazek

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dear SteveH
nobody accused u for bashing here is just a forum that people can share there knowledge by eachother u just shared with us a personal opinion and it was very welcome...!

dear daggit
thnx for the tip but as concern the price i just trying to figuring out where to buy it with the best price. Ricks for sure is a solution but has he the best price? $1150 just asking don't know

and finnaly dear Dr. Fibinotchi
thnx for the info i ll keep it in mind

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john

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10-21-2004 11:04 PM  13 years agoPost 14
ImRich

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Blaze,

If you are buying a new machine, realize that Miniature has a new gas machine out now. The older X-cell is, well the older model!


But to reinforce the upper frames, you can go with the aluminum uppers as has been mentioned, or get two set's of carbon uppers and double them up.

Or do what I did:

Reinforce the area with an aluminum doubler.

This should be done anyway for 3D or acro flying anyway. It's the only weak spot in the older Gasser.

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03-27-2005 03:50 PM  12 years agoPost 15
bevoduz

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Is this still necessary on the 1005 x-cell gasser?

Bevoduz

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03-27-2005 05:36 PM  12 years agoPost 16
blazek

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dear bevoduz

as concern for the upper frames and as all saying here you might need to do AP and as i know miniature aircraft gives that as an optional... so the decision is urs....
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john

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03-27-2005 06:56 PM  12 years agoPost 17
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x-cell gasser no longer made as a kit

Blazek,
According to MA the they are not longer making the x-cell gasser. They are now making the spectra G. I use the x-cell gasser for camera work and works great. If you want the x-cell gasser you better hurry up and buy one (do not how many new kits are still available).

Hector

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03-27-2005 08:04 PM  12 years agoPost 18
blazek

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thnx a lot hector
my new heli x-cell gasser is almost ready 2 fly but i don't have yet order the allouminioum upper frames i don't think that there could be a problem to order it.... they will not support any parts of this heli anymore ???

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john

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03-27-2005 08:06 PM  12 years agoPost 19
blazek

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pictures available to the link bellow:

http://www.ridingsnow.s5.com/photo6.html

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john

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03-28-2005 07:05 PM  12 years agoPost 20
Polariman

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I too us the Gasser. I am using the RotorKraft freestyle unit.

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