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10-19-2004 07:31 PM  13 years agoPost 1
R0XoRiZoR

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I was wondering if anyone knew of anything to help out hovering. When i hover my raptor .30 V2, in dead wind... it will stay perfect, with little to no correction (atleast conscious corrections...). The slightest breeze and it starts to drift... is there any hopups or tricks to help keep it still? When i correct it, it will go back.. but it feels as tho im always fighting the wind.....

any suggestions?

r0x

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10-19-2004 07:43 PM  13 years agoPost 2
dariof

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No tricks. Remember, these helis once started ina ANY direction will continue to go in that direction until an opposite input is added.

Think of that game where you have little metal balls that roll on a platform, and the object of that game is to get these little metal balls into the holes in the platform. Once you tilt the platform so as to get the balls moving (rolling), they will continue to move in that direction until you tilt the platform the opposite way.

Helis are no different......Practice

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10-19-2004 07:46 PM  13 years agoPost 3
R0XoRiZoR

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That really helps... :-)

I know exactly what you mean.

I think alot of it has to do with the accuracy and speed of my servos.. i think i may be correcting my corrections. Drifts to the south of the field, correct to the north a touch, but then have to correct back south.. etc...

Thanks for the explanation, just frustrating at times.

r0x

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10-19-2004 07:49 PM  13 years agoPost 4
dariof

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You're welcome.

After awhile you won;t even know you are making corrections. You'll be able to talk to someone standing next to you while flying your heli.

Best Regards, Dario

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10-19-2004 07:50 PM  13 years agoPost 5
playfair

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"I think alot of it has to do with the accuracy and speed of my servos.. "

No, not this part. It's just what it takes to "fly" a model helicopter.
If it was that easy, everyone would do it!


The sky is our canvas

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10-19-2004 09:12 PM  13 years agoPost 6
Drunk Monk

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it does get easier, it's just practice


Stephen

I only open my mouth to change feet.....

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10-19-2004 10:03 PM  13 years agoPost 7
Ted Toth

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It is been said many times and many ways
(sounds like a Xmas song)
all your answers are at the bottom of a drum of fuel

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You don't stop laughing because you grow old, you grow old because you stopped laughing.

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10-19-2004 10:57 PM  13 years agoPost 8
R0XoRiZoR

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another quick question.... i didn't want to start another thread... just for this... but..

I have a flight pack that i got with my heli... similar to the one for a raptor .30 v2 on helihobby.com

It has a wall plug trickle charge that takes like 18 hours to charge the RX pack... is it ok to charge with my super brain 959? It charges in less than 10 mins, and can be done at the field... Didn't know if this would have adverse effects?

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10-19-2004 11:01 PM  13 years agoPost 9
pcliftonjr

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If you don't have a SIM, get one and crank up the wind. I started with 0 gusting to 5 MPH, then I spent about 20-30 mins a night just hovering.

Once I could keep the heli pretty stable (meaning I didn't crash every 2 mins ) I set the SIM to gust up to 10 MPH...

Concentrate on very minimal stick inputs; Fight the urge to just flip/flop around!!

It worked for me.

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10-19-2004 11:05 PM  13 years agoPost 10
Ted Toth

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pcliftonjr Great Advice with gust on the sim
I spent about ninety minutes at the field today playing
in 15 to 25 mph gusting wind at times it really clears the
cobwebs out of the old cranium

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You don't stop laughing because you grow old, you grow old because you stopped laughing.

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10-20-2004 01:57 AM  13 years agoPost 11
Skyquest II

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I am using a Rotopod and as soon as the heli gets light on the Pod it starts going sideways and then basically wants to take off down the field. Is it because the heli is not trimmed correctly or is this normal.

When you hover do you watch the main blades to see if they are level and try to anticipate the next correction ? I used to watch the Heli body but that really did not help at all.

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10-20-2004 02:03 AM  13 years agoPost 12
rspiegel

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OK

Heli needs trimed all the time. I retrim mine every time I go to the field not much but yes it does. Wind has a lot to do with. Also a smooth setup helps I have expo on my radio to soften the center of the stick. It helps a lot. Also reduce the atv some will help. It could and can be to touchy. Yes you are always correcting but not as much as you say. Hope that helps Richard

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10-20-2004 02:30 AM  13 years agoPost 13
Skyquest II

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In the beginning the RotoPod is a real pain as the heli does not sit 100% even like on its skids on the ground, so when getting light on the Pod one is already trying to compensate for the tilt of the heli one way or the other.

When trimming do you adjust the TX slider switches ? and how do you know when you have it trimmed right, considering one cannot get into a hover yet ?

"Gravity is the RC heli pilots worst nightmare"

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10-20-2004 02:34 AM  13 years agoPost 14
rspiegel

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ok

I used do trim it on concrete. you can see it slid and yes use the trim AKA sliders.With the pod do a slight hop and it shouldn't be much movement. Yes there will be a slight movement but not much.

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10-20-2004 08:55 AM  13 years agoPost 15
frogbaiter

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You really want to trim for stationary hovering out of ground effect. That means it's unlikely to be perfectly trimmed at the point of takeoff. You have to learn to read the heli and fly it - you're in control! I haven't touched my trims in ages.

As someone said earlier, practice is what does it. Get as much time on the real heli as possible. Sim helps, I think, but is no replacement.

Also, be aware that the heli will hover at an angle - don't expect the rotor disc to be level - because it has to offset the lateral thrust of the tail.

Practice...... suddenly you realise you're finding it easier without knowing why!


Steve
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10-20-2004 03:39 PM  13 years agoPost 16
Drunk Monk

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You can't trim a heli in the wind cos as soon as you fly the other way the trims will be way out. However the wind is a great teacher and once you get used to it can be great fun too, certainly gets the reactions going


Stephen

I only open my mouth to change feet.....

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10-20-2004 05:09 PM  13 years agoPost 17
cjw

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I haven't touched my trims in ages.
Just what I was thinking. Trimmed my helis out of ground effect for hands off hover (on a still day) and have never touched them since.

You do get used to the wind and after practice can hold these babies still in pretty strong winds. I can now fly in winds up to about 20mph, whereas a little while ago 5mph was a problem

Clive

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10-20-2004 05:53 PM  13 years agoPost 18
frogbaiter

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....and the trims don't help you much in the wind! Most of the effort then is in trying to "be one with the wind" and react quickly on the collective to stop it either going into orbit or planting itself!


Steve
www.helicollective.org.uk

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10-20-2004 06:18 PM  13 years agoPost 19
BC Don

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1) ROTOPOD setup.
If you have your Rotopod setup so that the Heli can easily tilt (the 2 ruber washers will contact the cross bar with their "small" ends) then change it. I found that I have the crossbar right against the plastic disk with one rubber washer on top with the small end against the crossbar and then the other washer under the plastic disk. This means the Heli can still rotate but is kept horizontal.

2) WIND.
Biggest thing for me is to point into the wind when I'm hovering.
Prior to this, make sure that on a calm day the Heli is trimed out so it will hover briefly "hands off" - get an experienced person to do this.
Once the wind blows though, it will have large effects on the Heli, I find myself gaining and loosing altitude a lot. When the wind is pushing the Heli back to me it goes up, as soon as I angle it more forward the lift is drastically reduced and the heli starts dropping faster than I'd like so I need more collective, then as the Heli is brought back level lift is increased and the Heli ascends again unless I'm careful on the Collective.

I need to fly more.

Got Money? Send it to me, I'm a Heli Addict.

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10-20-2004 07:24 PM  13 years agoPost 20
GroundPounder

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Yep, it will get easier.
I like to land the heli on slight inclines, then practice takeoff without sideways movements.
Still can't fff, or nose in:-(

GroundPounder

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