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10-18-2004 07:02 AM  13 years agoPost 1
DrScoles

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How would you like to be able to display a text message on your night blades? You may have seen something like this a few years ago. Reyes Canales has designed and test flown a working prototype. He is now working on a set of 680 carbon blades. These blades will be fully 3D capable, and you can choose the message you want to put on the blades.

Here are two pics of the blades, one with flash, and one without. In the darkened pic, you can see a little light in the middle of picture... that is the infra red emitter mounted to the tailboom.


Message Blades


More info to come............


Mike
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10-18-2004 07:07 AM  13 years agoPost 2
JKos

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Mike,
That is very cool! What does the lighting on the bottom of the blades look like? Any estimate of cost?

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10-18-2004 08:06 AM  13 years agoPost 3
alawel

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This is cool.....I had a chance to see these blades in action last month. Don't think they were flown at that time but we did see them spooled up......Alan

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10-18-2004 08:25 AM  13 years agoPost 4
Clayman

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NOW that's awsome have to get me a set

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10-18-2004 01:12 PM  13 years agoPost 5
Drunk Monk

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Definately cool, I'm interested


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10-18-2004 04:23 PM  13 years agoPost 6
DrScoles

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The bottom message will look exactly like upper, or you can change it to something different. Better description on my website...

http://www.mikescolesheli.com

I agree wingtip, gotta be carbon, gotta be able to 3D... The wieght isn't too big of an issue... adds about 17 grams per blade. I have flown several sets of SAB night blades at 206 grams and they were fine, these will be under 200...


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10-18-2004 06:07 PM  13 years agoPost 7
gt900uk

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Thats well cool any idea on what sort of price these things would be?

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10-18-2004 06:59 PM  13 years agoPost 8
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Richard Frederich (sp) was the first to get this idea working about 5 years ago when Richard, Reyes and I all used to fly together. Richard let the idea drop and Its good to see Reyes pick it up.

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10-18-2004 08:10 PM  13 years agoPost 9
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I would buy 'em. That is very cool.

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10-18-2004 10:27 PM  13 years agoPost 10
DrScoles

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Rumprider, Vics blades were not $295.... Anyway, these blades will be more expensive than traditional night blades... There is a whole lot more stuff going into these things. Reyes and I are just guys who like to do stuff nightflying, not doing this to make money, our day jobs do a little better than making a few sets of blades or a video

With my video, I wanted to share something with the rest of the heli community in a professional format, most of the other videos I have seen have not done this yet. I am still way in the hole on the video, but thats the way it goes, had a blast filming it, and I really appreciate the feedback I have received from people who watched it. We are just hobbyists who are trying to do things that haven't been done before.

Reyes is a creative mad scientist who has a lot of great ideas, I'm just the first person in line to get to try the stuff out We will do our best to make these things available to anyone who wants a set, and at a realistic price.....

Mike
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10-18-2004 10:52 PM  13 years agoPost 11
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Richard Frederich (sp) was the first to get this idea working about 5 years ago when Richard, Reyes and I all used to fly together. Richard let the idea drop and Its good to see Reyes pick it up.
That is correct. Richard started working on these blades when I moved to Seattle. We exchanged emails, but I wasn't able to devote much time to the project after the move. Richard's blades used a basic stamp and standard bright LEDs. Richard did a great job, but the LEDs extended above the surface of the blade which affected the airflow over the blade. In the blades shown in the picture, I've embedded surface mount LEDs in the blade so the air flow is undisturbed. I've flown the blades and they perform as well as they did without the LEDs. I'm also using a different circuit, processor and software.

I'm still refining the hardware and software. We don't have a price yet, but one design goal is to make these as affordable as possible. As mentioned on Mike's web site, we fully expect to offer several variations of these blades with pricing set accordingly.

Reyes

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10-19-2004 05:57 AM  13 years agoPost 12
vince

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Bluetooth those and you would have a real winner.

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10-19-2004 03:32 PM  13 years agoPost 13
fitenfyr

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Yes and Yes

I took the shot of them at night.

I mentioned the multi-color to Reyes and the bluetooth idea was discussed, but the system he has works really well.
Also there was talk of a switch on the tx to change the message.
Talk was a small control box type afair you can take to the field to program them. Kind of PDA size I guess. Now it seems he has found a better way so who knows.
The point being that like any good product there will be changes made along the way I am sure, but rest assured when they hit the market Mike and Reyes will have a good product.

Keep in mind these blades are not going to be for you average night flyer so they will be priced accordingly I think.
I would not be suprised to have to shell out 3-4 bills for these things, but if you like to night fly or have an advertising need (hint hint helicams and such ) they will be a good investement.

These things are awesome to look at and should be a kick once they are in production.
Also something else to consider. Those pictures are of a set of 550's now imagine a set of 700's

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10-19-2004 03:53 PM  13 years agoPost 14
cjw

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That is so neat

Really interested

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10-19-2004 03:58 PM  13 years agoPost 15
Sar

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Glad to see someone else doing this.

Please keep in mind that if you decide to start manufacturing these, unless you get a license to use the technology you'll be infringing on someone elses, non-heli related, patent which essentially patents using LED's on a moving object to generate a graphic or text display. If you have the resources to take care of this part, good luck

I ran into this about a year ago which is why I stopped persuing it as a commercial interest and kept it as personal hobby.

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10-19-2004 04:25 PM  13 years agoPost 16
DrScoles

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Sar,

First off, the technology would have to be used somewhere else in a similar fashion.... the ones you have seen with the little toys that spin are way different. It would then have to be patented. Reyes can prove he wrote all the code himself. And finally, this is such a microscopic market, that nobody would care! If we make these and sell 10-20 sets.... not much to go after....

Mike
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10-19-2004 05:07 PM  13 years agoPost 17
Sar

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The technology isn't patented, the concept of using a microcontroller to sequence LEDs in a pattern that when attached to a moving object, generate text or an image is.

At any rate, good luck with it, it's good to see innovation

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10-19-2004 08:27 PM  13 years agoPost 18
JKos

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> the technology would have to be used somewhere else in a similar
> fashion....

It is. I know of some of the devices Jon is referring to. One of them is a necklace like device that you spin above your head and it displays messages. I've seen those at concerts and in adds. There are also several other similar technology devices on the market such as clocks and even a Caller ID display.

As Jon says, I would be a bit cautious about pursuing this commercially. Do the right research. Remember, in the patent world, the little guy always loses even when it doesn't make sense. I too have stopped developments due to patent issues.

- John

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10-19-2004 08:42 PM  13 years agoPost 19
fitenfyr

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Simple

I agree with Doc these are unique enough to survive the patent office.

Now tell Reyes to submit the documents to patent his design.
If he gets a patent then it is a non-issue.

Jason Stiffey
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10-19-2004 08:51 PM  13 years agoPost 20
JKos

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> Now tell Reyes to submit the documents to patent his design.

But if it is such a small market that "no one" will care, the cost of the patent will easily exced the profit.

I'm certainly not saying to stop developement, I'm just saying do your research and cover your butt. Also, remember that it is up to the patent holder to do anything about infringments of their patent. A simple, one page legal agreement may be all that it takes to keep things cool.

Here are two product examples:
http://www.theskyliner.com/
http://www.gogotech.com/browse/624f...e431db5bc3cd555

- John

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