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10-21-2004 06:07 PM  13 years agoPost 81
Kino

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I'm starting to get an idea why he "got elected" in the first place.

Why do we fear change, one of the two certainty's in life

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10-21-2004 06:30 PM  13 years agoPost 82
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..and

He is going to Win ! You may find a million records like these about Mr. Bush . Actually there is a whole movie about him . I guess people keep digging -ve if they don't like someone . I watched Farn. 911 and decided , my vote doesn't go to Bush . .

I am sure I will be attacked for this message . But, Kerry has equal or more ratings then Bush . Check any polls !!

Garden State, NJ

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10-21-2004 06:48 PM  13 years agoPost 83
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check any poll?

OK how about this one:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/sp...olls/index.html

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10-21-2004 06:50 PM  13 years agoPost 84
MAH

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Check any polls !!
I think you should recheck.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS...nday/index.html

Im now more certain than ever that Bush will be relected. My next door neighbor who is a long time democrat and Union member (IBEW) told me just yesterday he doesnt think he will bother to vote this year.

This is the same guy that told me he would vote for anybody as long as they were a democrat.

I see a lot of disinterested democrats out there.

Of course here in central Illinois the Democrats are having a hard time because they really killed us with NAFTA. Illinois has lost 170,000 manufacturing jobs since 1998 due to NAFTA.

Mike Hammer
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10-21-2004 06:54 PM  13 years agoPost 85
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How do what the polls say have any relevance toward your decision for president??? Polls are pointless.

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10-21-2004 06:59 PM  13 years agoPost 86
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Well aashu, if you made your decision based on Moores' movie F911 then you are an unmitigated dumba**, which coincidentally is exactly what Kerredy is relying on in order to get elected. End of story.

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10-21-2004 07:19 PM  13 years agoPost 87
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aashu, there are a few things in that movie that are true; Wolfwits grooming habbits for example, but most off it is garbage, here is a good link that might sort a few things out. Vote for Kerry if thats what you think is best, but be wary of basing the decision on that movie.

http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fif...renheit-911.htm

thank you in advance for the 10$

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10-21-2004 07:28 PM  13 years agoPost 88
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Come on

Come on guys !! Don't bash me ! Set movie aside , I would Vote based on my observation of bush from past 4 years . I am not a Kerry supporter but I didn't like they way Bush represented many things.

BTW if that moview is POS , why we keep bring links here similar which bash Kerry and quickly believe them !

I am sure my fellow flyers are majorly reppublicans so I won't argue .. however, If a Poll still shows only a 3-4 point difference that still gives Kerry a lots of credibility . PLus our Old Clinton hasn't sarted Campaining which could have added to these numbers in Kerry's favour

Dragon2115 dude . Please don't spaculate and judge me based on what I said . Atleast I share the same hobby as you do so I can't be a Dumb A$$... so take it easy.

Garden State, NJ

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10-21-2004 07:42 PM  13 years agoPost 89
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Kerredy
heheh... hadn't heard that one yet!! but this carries lots of truth

Jason /// Sceadu50/9chp WWW.Jagboy69.com

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10-21-2004 07:48 PM  13 years agoPost 90
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don't be nasty, flush the johns, vote for bush

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10-21-2004 07:49 PM  13 years agoPost 91
MAH

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PLus our Old Clinton hasn't sarted Campaining which could have added to these numbers in Kerry's favour
You really believe that? Go back and look at the 2000 election and the 2002 Florida governors race and you will see that Clinton has had a NEGATIVE impact on democratic campaigns.
Well aashu, if you made your decision based on Moores' movie F911 then you are an unmitigated dumba**
Calling him a dumbass is probably not fair. He and others that believed in F911 are more likely victims. Victims that have fallen prey to the most skilled political propagandist since Joseph Goebbels.

aasha...if you liked F911 so well perhaps you would like to check out this film. Just to be fair and balanced.

http://www.fahrenhype911.com/

And did you check out the link supplied by some others?

http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fif...renheit-911.htm

Probably not...

Mike Hammer
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10-21-2004 07:57 PM  13 years agoPost 92
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"Flush the Johns" vote for Bush! That's one I hadn't heard but I like it!!

My motto is this..Fly...Rebuild...Fly

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10-21-2004 08:06 PM  13 years agoPost 93
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Lol

Believe me I am going to watch all of above . Won't be fair to blindly believe Mr Moore . However , I personally am opposed to a certain bush's policies F911 has little or no affect on me .

2000 and 2002 Elections had -Ve impact coz Clin's Monica's case was too new.. Lol . Now that he had a heart surgery people are going to be in his favour . .. only if Monika agrees she had fun !

Garden State, NJ

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10-21-2004 09:12 PM  13 years agoPost 94
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Dragon2115 dude . Please don't spaculate and judge me based on what I said .
Don't judge you on what you said??? This is a text based forum, therefore that is the only thing that you are judged on. So what it comes down to is, if you don't mean it then don't write it. Either that or add a few or or or after a statement to indicate that you were being sarcastic, kidding, joking, etc.

And I will stand by my statement, if anyone has made up their mind on who they are going to vote for based on Moores' movie as the deciding factor, then they are a complete moron and society should do whatever is necessary to make sure they don't further contaminate the gene pool with their stupidity.

MAH,

Victims??? There sure are a lot of willing victims around then. Joseph Goebbels was successful for the most part because of the ability to limit information reaching the people. When people have multiple sources then they can see through bs pretty quickly. That is the case today. There are many sources that prove Moore to be nothing more than a self agrandizing and outright propagandist. If they fail to avail themselves of them then they truely are dumba**es.

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10-21-2004 09:53 PM  13 years agoPost 95
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Dude

I will add one last commecnt to your reply

You are sick . get help .

Look there is no or Even if people do decide based on Moore's movie they are not what you think. How do believe what Bush says ? He said he is going to War because IRAQ has WMD , later WMD Vanished and he said I want Iraq to get rid of Saddam Regime, then he said Saddam is linked to 911 . Still no Proof. Guess he is another Flip-flop like Kerry .


No flames intended !!

Now, don't you bother replying me !!

Garden State, NJ

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10-21-2004 10:20 PM  13 years agoPost 96
MAH

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Dragon...
If they fail to avail themselves of them then they truely are dumba**es.
You do have a point. Everyone that comes here is doing so via the Internet. A medium that allows ANYONE with just a few minutes effort to find the validity or absurdity of any issue.

And then aashu said...
How do believe what Bush says ? He said he is going to War because IRAQ has WMD , later WMD Vanished and he said I want Iraq to get rid of Saddam Regime, then he said Saddam is linked to 911 .
I guess this proves Dragon's point. Because aashu obviously did not avail himself of the resources of the Internet. Because if he had he would know how wrong and absurd his above statement is.

Mike Hammer
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10-22-2004 02:14 AM  13 years agoPost 97
KnimRod

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aashu,

You said:
I watched Farn. 911 and decided , my vote doesn't go to Bush .
Then you said:
Set movie aside , I would Vote based on my observation of bush from past 4 years .
Which is it? I wouldn't blame you for retracting the first comment. Anyone who truly believes the nonsense in Moore's work of fiction is pretty shallow.

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10-22-2004 02:36 AM  13 years agoPost 98
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206 to 69...Not very close here....It looks like to me that the people of RunRyder are just smarter than the average voter and the poll takers.

My motto is this..Fly...Rebuild...Fly

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10-22-2004 04:21 AM  13 years agoPost 99
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Oh brother... When will you all learn? Your rights and my rights are being dismantled piece by piece by this "conservative" government by means of the Patriot Acts. There's talk of a national ID card in the near future, the TIPS program is working (report any suspicious activity blah blah blah), cameras up at every intersection... All while the borders stay wide open. They're cracking down on the law abiding citizens but not cracking down on the problem, the borders. One day we'll all be criminals for one reason or the other and the time is almost here when dissent is one of those reasons.

Bush and Kerry ultimately stand for the same things... And that's more government. Under this current "conservative" administration, Government has never been bigger in the history of the US. So it looks like the conservatives who are supposed to stand for less government haven't done their job. The current system is flawed and people want to debate who had the better war record... Give me a break.

I'd recommend you all search online for the video American Dictators by Alex Jones... It's downloadable on many sites. It might open your eyes some.

J

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10-22-2004 04:43 AM  13 years agoPost 100
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... All while the borders stay wide open. They're cracking down on the law abiding citizens but not cracking down on the problem, the borders.
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Yup, couldn't agree more. We have a border patrol, good hardworking folks too ( flew with them for a day a few months ago) but there are nowhere near enough of them. my buddy says every time a politician mentions the posiblility of a card or amnesty the problem gets quite a bit worse too.

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