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10-20-2004 03:02 AM  13 years agoPost 61
debogus

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Thank God that he's not regardless .

Look at him now , the reverend egore

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10-20-2004 03:27 AM  13 years agoPost 62
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written in a form of legeleeze written by legal sleaze.
LOL
How about people with vowels in thier names
That would be???....Just about anyone excepts maybe some Czechs and Poles

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10-20-2004 04:06 AM  13 years agoPost 63
Sealerman

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I know plenty who came from the ghetto and rose through college and became very successful, much more so than myself.
Thats mighty white of you to admit that, please tell us more.
money buys privelege, to some extent it is true
No, do you really think so Stet?
Boy it would sure be nice if we required ID at our polling places !!!!
Stet thats a great idea. I can't believe no one has thought of that.
Stet it must be so hard having a Brain like you do knowing that your choice for Pres. doesn't. How do you do it ?

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10-20-2004 05:14 PM  13 years agoPost 64
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I think this is hilarious to think a boat captain is smarter than someone who can fly a fighter jet. So kerry can BS better than bush If you want to believe BS. He's had 20 years experence lying to us all in the senate. Does anyone care he spent all that time and only has 5 bills with his name on it , three were resolutions . What a great record. I still want to know how someone who spent four months in vietnam did two tours of duty . My father was there for 16 months because they didn't have enough corpsman , injured and all. The only thing you really own is your reputation . That what I go by when picking someone to represent me ,not what party there in .

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10-20-2004 05:19 PM  13 years agoPost 65
rckrzy1

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How many of you BUSH lovers have sons you are willing to give up
for IRAQ ? I have 2 sons I would back them 100% if they said NO.

Yes I am vet myself.



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10-20-2004 06:12 PM  13 years agoPost 66
tadawson

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If I had a son our daughter that willingly chose to be in the military, then yes, I would be willing. Anyone who joins the military without the understanding that their life may be at risk at a moments notice, is an imbecile! If you don't want to take a chance of dying for whatever reason, don't join! Do I think our actions in Iraq are warranted? Undoubtably . . .

For those who accuse Bush of not being that bright, please be aware that a lot of the greatest minds in history where not great public speakers - one generally has nothing to do with the other. Kerry's biggest skill appears to be floating bulls**t and not looking like he is lying (I think a rather complete lack of moral character is the root of this) not being smarter. While I am not saying Bush is necessarily a genius, I think judging him on his presentation skills is ignoring the core of his function - making decisions, not just being a face! And in that regard, I really can't find much to fault with Bush. For those who claim he lied about WMD, for this to be a lie, he would have had to know that what he said was untrue AT THE TIME HE SAID IT! All the intelligence pointed to the existence of WMD when we went into Iraq, and what they now know is irrelevant to the initial decision and statements. No such thing as a retroactive liar, guys.

And now for Kerry. Personally, I have never seen an individual be able to support a set of positions which are so unquestionably denied by proven facts as this man. Given 20 sources of information on a topic, 19 of which are accredited and proven which do not support him, and one which does, of dubious character and accuracy, guess which one Lurch picks? Sorry guys, but a professional Bulls**t artist is not for me . . .

- Tim

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10-20-2004 06:57 PM  13 years agoPost 67
rckrzy1

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Do I think our actions in Iraq are warranted? Undoubtably . . .
Then please send you kids off , by all means, go ahead. I say the only
bad guy has been caught , he's in jail, Now time to get the F out of
dodge as we are not wanted there and it will NEVER , EVER be a democracy in Iraq, you are just fooling yourselves if you think we can will it upon them. None of the real bad guys came from Iraq, that's a fact. And I never said volunteer, because pin head is going to have to
start the draft as there is NO ONE left to go, no new volunteers rushing to die for not.



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10-20-2004 08:09 PM  13 years agoPost 68
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It would seem that they are not having much problem with getting recuits. A small portion of an article about which below.

Recruitment remains strong, despite Iraq war
Sunday, October 10, 2004
Though the war in Iraq rages on -- and the soldier body count has surpassed 1,000 -- young Jackson-area men and women are continuing to sign up for the armed forces.

A recent sampling of area high school officials shows that despite the violence, recruitment has remained steady.

"What's going on in Iraq doesn't seem to be changing much," said Larry Phipps, a senior adviser at Jackson High School. Phipps estimates that 20 to 30 Jackson High students show an interest in military service each year and between 80 and 90 percent of those enlist.

Link to article http://www.mlive.com/news/jacitpat/...02751280610.xml

Though the the army has eased it requirements since they are 5000 behind the 56,000 they wanted this year.

I am glad most people on here are more optimistic and not defeatists; but flying RC helis requires such.

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10-20-2004 08:34 PM  13 years agoPost 69
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No bad guys in iraq?

I guess the folks blowing themselves up to kill other iraqis are good guys. Thanks for clearing that up.

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10-20-2004 08:37 PM  13 years agoPost 70
Andi G

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Then please send you kids off , by all means, go ahead. I say the only
bad guy has been caught , he's in jail, Now time to get the F out of
dodge as we are not wanted there and it will NEVER
By the time you got rid of that bad guy you made a terrorist camp of the former stable Iraq... do you think Kerry will pull the troops back? If he does now the 1000 solders and the uncounted Iraqis would habe died in vain... and Iraq would get a REAL threat to the US.
So you can vote for a president who is responsible for all of this or for one where you don't really know how it will end. I'm glad I don't have to make this choice...

By the way, we don't have a president here but 7 ministers, which brings democracy to the highest level of decisions. If I recall right Bush was elected with less votes than Gore (only because of the system where the majority of states will decide and not the one of the voters, correct me if I'm wrong) and his politics are on the extreme right side of the spectrum.
Apart from that our political system is very similar (small states, 2 houses of parliament and so on, but with 4 big parties and not only 2).

Andi

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10-20-2004 08:59 PM  13 years agoPost 71
Texas1

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I would not call his policies the extreme right. He is to middle of the road for that. He already has increase the Fed involvement in education which is a state function, grew Medicare - not extreme right views, sign the patriot act parts of which are invasive to privacy and not cut taxes enough are just a few. He is not much different from sKerry except that he does show conviction and a certain amount of conservative value. Kerry believes in wealth redistribution through taxes and does not have any conviction. I think some of thoughs across the sea ( and within the states) should read some of the news accounts about German and Japan after the wars. All of which did not come to pass. It may not happen the same for Iraq. But as I have heared said can't never could. .

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10-20-2004 09:14 PM  13 years agoPost 72
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Well, don't forget European medias and politics are more on the left side, so the information we get is not always perfect (remember the Bush walking on water joke here in the off topics?). I don't like how big the influence of the medias is...

Well I think the Germans were glad to get rid of Hitler and working really hard to get back to normal. It's amazing what they have done between 1930 and 45 in the technical sector, especially Jets (!), Helis (Flettner) and submarines.

I don't know if the Iraqis have the same will, if they do it's great but the risk Bush took there is huge.

Andi

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10-20-2004 09:16 PM  13 years agoPost 73
Texas1

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Andi, I agree the risk is huge!

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10-20-2004 09:47 PM  13 years agoPost 74
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The Communist stomp over weak countries and rule over them and take advantages of their resources.

The Americans liberate countries and freely supply them with goods.
The new war is ugly, but with continued good faith, the battle will be won.

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10-21-2004 12:19 AM  13 years agoPost 75
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Andi G.,
you made a terrorist camp of the former stable Iraq...
It's sad if Europeans have that belief. All of the evidence points exactly opposite of that, even if the press doesn't.

Let's see; Saddam was firing missiles at allied aircraft almost daily, bribing French and German leaders to block the US's and Britain's efforts in the UNSC, all the while playing shell games with UN Inspectors and pushing France to lift sanctions so he could resume overt WMD development and stockpiles; with fat contracts for French companies. Not to mention Saddam's method of enforcing civil obedience; kill hundreds of thousands to secure his reign of terror.

Yeah. Iraq was 'stable'...

BTW: Iraq already had terrorist camps within its borders. Do a search on Ansar al Islam.

It is truly sad that the European Union has such skewed information pumped through its veins everyday. However, each individual can do their own research and not rely on the talking heads. But then, that takes effort.

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10-21-2004 02:26 AM  13 years agoPost 76
debogus

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No divebomber ,
What is sad , is that there are , american's with those same european beliefs.

Dave

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10-21-2004 05:15 AM  13 years agoPost 77
JitsuGuy

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The Americans liberate countries and freely supply them with goods.
LOL at least it gives you a warm fuzzy to believe that way. We're always the good guys aren't we, I mean, c'mon, we're freaking America! We can do no wrong!

J

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10-21-2004 05:39 AM  13 years agoPost 78
debogus

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At least we agree

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10-21-2004 05:04 PM  13 years agoPost 79
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Just wait a week and he'll say he never has hunted.

My motto is this..Fly...Rebuild...Fly

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10-21-2004 05:05 PM  13 years agoPost 80
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Looks like Kerry is an illegal hunter... Kerry is a dip****... Funny thing.... You could put a monkey in a suit, call him a democrat.. and they'd vote for him. I vote for the MAN..

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