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HelicopterMiniature Aircraft Whiplash & Fury 55 › Tapered rod broke. CRASH!
10-18-2004 08:43 PM  13 years agoPost 61
Buzzin Brian

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It happened in flight. No other situation I can think of would have made the blades go in and out of track. This is not a Raptor 30 V1 I am talking about. This is a Fury that was absolutly imaculate in condition. I am very anal when it comes to my machines maintenance. Also after the crash everything else checks out except THAT! So I see NO other culprit.

Build it, fly it, crash it. Repeat as often as needed.

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10-18-2004 09:44 PM  13 years agoPost 62
Buzzin Brian

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:Update:

I have spoken to Tim, and he was very nice about the whole deal. And never doubted what I was saying for a second. He basicly said that this has happened before, and it was 3D that lead to it happening. So be warned. If Tim says it CAN happen. I beleive we will see this again if those that use them for 3D continue to. Tim is going to help me out on the deal. No they are not going to replace everything for free. But I don't exspect them to. It will be in the way of a good discount. So I am happy. For all those that think they should replace everything for free. I understand what you are saying, but I to had seen the old thread (which has been pointed out) but like Al said. I didn't think there was a real problem, until I had it myself. Now I know. So I feel me paying my part is absolutly fair. So I feel MA came through VERY well given the situation. And rest assured I will NEVER use those rods again. To the can they will go!

Build it, fly it, crash it. Repeat as often as needed.

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10-19-2004 12:40 AM  13 years agoPost 63
corey11

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So Brian...i guess i beat you in the rebuilding part hehe

Heres the good side....

heres the bad side...i covered up a spot with a wakeboarding fin company, and a futaba sticker i used to cover a hole....and on the windsheild im just gonna color it in with a black sharpie.Arizona Heli is out 3 months...so i gotta deal with it!

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10-19-2004 12:45 AM  13 years agoPost 64
Al Magaloff

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Sounds like a good deal to me Brian

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10-19-2004 12:58 AM  13 years agoPost 65
Buzzin Brian

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Yes Corey you did. But I had a Raptor 90 and a Raptor 50 to fix as well. And since they are a LOT cheaper to fix than the Fury, they got first dibs. Plus I was kind of waiting to see what MA had to say. So I kind of put it on the back burner. Now all I need to do is get the list together to fix it, and I will get er done! Oh and contact Joe at CanopyFx. He will get you painted in a LOT less than 3 months.

Al,
I thought you would see it my way.

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10-19-2004 02:35 AM  13 years agoPost 66
AzHyper

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Peoria, Az.

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Brian, thanks for posting your results. As usual, Min Air takes the honest road. If you are satisfied with the resolution then most likely all of us would be. It's their willingness to admit failure, learn from mistakes, and make it right that has and will continue to keep them top players in our hobby. I hope you get it back together before the snow flies!!!

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10-19-2004 02:40 AM  13 years agoPost 67
Buzzin Brian

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Thanks for the kind words. But here in Oklahoma we have not had a HARD snow in a few years. Damn global warming! (knock on wood!) At any rate, she will be fixed soon. I just need to get the parts list together. Which I will be doing first thing tomorrow when I get home from work. And you can BET on that!

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10-19-2004 03:09 AM  13 years agoPost 68
corey11

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Snow?? oo that stuff that comes in winter! i have to drive 2 and a half hours to see that stuff....but heres some of my winter flying pictures...hehe

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10-19-2004 03:19 AM  13 years agoPost 69
Jerryc

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I am very anal when it comes to my machines maintenance
I can attest to that fact!

Jerryc

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10-19-2004 04:55 AM  13 years agoPost 70
Scrub

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Antioch, CA

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I had a set of these "Tapered" MA rods on my Fury. After about a dozen flights one of the hiller rods broke.....then.....crash! Went back to the stock but left one on the throttle arm. I figured there can't be much stress on the throttle, right? Anyway, after about twenty flights or so the rod broke in mid-flight. Fortunately I was in normal mode so the heli just slowly hoovered down. After inspection the rod broke at the treads just like all the others. But, it didn't break from excess stress or force. It broke from the vibration induced from the engine.

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10-19-2004 05:27 AM  13 years agoPost 71
a_korandr

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Chicago, IL

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the problem with these rods is simple - they are machined (chiselled). And this process creates a lot of potential stress points (especially at the end of the taper)...

They look beautiful though ...

Standard rods are created by rolling on (not sure about the right term for the process)....

Same issue with the link balls (the ones with 2mm threads). If you happened to have reinstalled them - get rid of them...

here is what have happened to them at the field (i thought of playing with the bell mixer ratios) - sorry for a crapy cell phone camera...

i replaced them with 2mm bolt and a ball with a brass standoff (combos used at pro2 ail cranks)

sorry for the loss, Brian...

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10-22-2004 07:33 AM  13 years agoPost 72
Geo

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Australia

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Die cut or rolled

Sorry to hear your crash
Everything in that area should be a rolled thread as in Socket head cap screw, type manufacture
Like the thread on a bike spoke
They are good
If the manufacturer is using a die cut thread in that area I would be shocked and change it out
I only fly a dumb Rap but wouldnt consider anything but rolled threads on her
You can buy a machine that rolls threads on bike spokes
I found one on the tip
My lucky day
After that happy days were here again
Geo

Self confessed Inverted Auto failure

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