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06-05-2004 10:26 PM  13 years agoPost 1
pjh

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I have a 30 size nitro heli and a micro electric. The micro although perfect to learn on don't take to the outdoors too well. The nitro although stable outdoors is a bit noisy and can be intimidating because of this.
I like electric and the size of a 30. Any thoughts on the best way too go bearing in mind i am not an advanced flyer but would like to be!

The older i get the faster i was

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06-06-2004 12:11 AM  13 years agoPost 2
pet_heli

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well, you can always convert the nitro

a micro will really hone those skills, and if you go in with the right attitude they're great. a lot of people get pissed off because they're fickle little critters, both in flying characteristics and in maintenance. You just don't get the same quality-per-dollar-spent that you do with a nitro. but if you go in knowing this, nobody's pulling the wool over your eyes.

so my thought is, if it's not going to be your last helicopter, get comfortable with a micro, being prepared to fight all its bugs and quirks and quality issues, overcome the additional instability it might have in flight, and then you'll go back to your nitro with much nimbler thumbs and a bunch more experience.

I offer a few of my opinions on different heli's from my limited knowledge from what I've experienced and / or read: Be warned, these are just my opinions, or my takes on what I've read and I'm not the most experienced person on here. If anybody has different opinions, go ahead & say them too

A zoom has a rep as a 3d micro that can handle the wind better than some of the other micro's. Maybe it's because it's slightly larger & heavier. Like the hornet 2, it's got a driven tail which some folks like to avoid because it means more things to break.

A hornet2, has a rep as having a good stock head and being a capable 3d machine out of the box, even more so with a couple of upgrades like ball-in-swash. I don't even consider going brushless an upgrade on that.... it's just part of the equipment selection.... I'm still getting the bugs out of mine, mainly stripping motor pinions, but I'm not having so much trouble with the tail or tail pinions that others are having. The hornet 2 supposidly has a much better tail than the original.

A hummingbird elite has a stronger undercariage than its predicessors. On the CP version, people complain about breaking parts easily. I haven't had this trouble yet because I haven't tried to take it appart and I haven't broken it in a crash. If you get a humminbird of any kind, i think most people are happier if they get separates. The stock tail on mine, and some other people's burned out almost right away, although this might be due to to running 3s lipos on a motor not meant for that much voltage. The FP V2, and maybe(?) the elite FP might be a little more durable, but less capable obiously. These are cheap heli's, and you've definitely got to lower your expectations approprietely.

the piccolo is said to be the original micro. piccolo's and a few hummingbird take-offs = similar class as hummingbirds, but that's like a ford versus chevy sort of a thing.... (IMHO) If you want CP, the piccolo pro is a more expensive option.

corona's are durable, and a bit larger, ..... you can fly them outside.... but (IMHO) they're not especially cheap for their FP capabilities. I'm assuming you want collective pitch?

ikarus eco 8's and 16's are a bit larger and CP, but I keep reading about people talking about them as a starting places to upgrade away from. i.e. i get the idea they aren't very capable for their size or price? not sure.

logo 10's seem to be really nice, but cost more. one thing i think about is affording batteries for bigger helicopters.... converting a nitro to me sounds like a fortune in batteries. a logo 10, is considerably smaller than a 30 size, but a lot bigger than a micro. you get into more higher end logo's and you start talking about more money than i want to think about.


there are the other's like voyager and robbe models, but i don't know too much about them.

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06-06-2004 03:30 AM  13 years agoPost 3
Tripen2

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You might want to take a look at an Eolo. i don't have one but i have researched them and most people that have one say they fly just like a 30 in the wind. Check out the forum here on runryder for tons more info.

Mike

16hrs to build 30secs to crash
Raptor 90
Raptor 50V2
Trex, HB CP

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06-06-2004 10:03 AM  13 years agoPost 4
pjh

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pet-heli thanks for those few words. I think maybe an eolo or a logo might be the way to go. converting my nitro concept could be possible as they made an electric concept(the ep i think) so the parts could be available.i guess the research will have to begin!

The older i get the faster i was

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06-06-2004 12:28 PM  13 years agoPost 5
rscamp

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As far as electric helis go, the Logo 10 3D would be the de facto standard for what you are looking for. Popular, easy to build, large and powerful enough with a good LiPo setup to do just about anything.

There are more choices all the time. The Logo 10 is no longer the only game in town but it is a solid choice and arguably the best choice for someone who doesn't have a lot of heli assembly experience.

A Logo 10 isn't a lot smaller than a 30 size (500-515mm blades vs. 550mm blades) and it can be stretched to 30 size. Being a bit smaller has its advantages as far as cost of batteries and field support (availability of energy at the field) are concerned.

If you are handy with electric stuff and don't mind more expense for batteries and charging equipment, I think the best option might be a conversion. There will soon be more good electric conversion parts for the Raptor available from http://www.electraflight.com/ . If you have an oops, it will be easier and less expensive to get Raptor parts than Logo parts.

Rob

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06-06-2004 11:18 PM  13 years agoPost 6
novetec

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You could also look at the voyager e. I am very happy with my.

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07-04-2004 10:07 PM  13 years agoPost 7
pjh

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looked into converting the concept to electric! seems that the ep version bears no resemblance to my sr. looks like the concept's for sale and a logo is on the shopping list.
thanks everyone for your thoughts

The older i get the faster i was

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