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06-05-2004 10:15 PM  13 years agoPost 1
jerrythercpilot

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Moments ago.

Light travels faster than sound, thats why some people appear so bright UNTIL you hear them speak.

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06-05-2004 10:47 PM  13 years agoPost 2
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He was a good man and a great president. He is on his way to a better place.

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06-05-2004 10:51 PM  13 years agoPost 3
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This man FREED hundreds of millions of people in the Soviet Union yet he never won the Noble Peach Prize, but Gorbechev did??

Light travels faster than sound, thats why some people appear so bright UNTIL you hear them speak.

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06-05-2004 10:52 PM  13 years agoPost 4
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Ronnie Reagan is onto a better place. God speed.

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06-05-2004 11:00 PM  13 years agoPost 5
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I meant heaven. No jest here. He really was a great man and did a lot for our great country. My job takes me all over the world and I have seen a lot of horrible places to live. He helped make this wonderful country a great place to live. His successor, well we will not think of such moral problems at this time....

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06-06-2004 12:56 AM  13 years agoPost 6
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True.....a sad day

I have fond memories of personal contact with him while serving in the military on NEACP duty. Several times a year we would exercise extracting him from a location, and would then ferry him to his next destination aboard our aircraft. He was a very personable gentleman that was always humble and gracious whenever we had contact with him. Many a game of spades were played as we traveled across country with him.....more than once he "set" me while I was going "low".
I had personally asked him to attend a funeral of a military buddy that had perished in a motorcycle accident on one of those flights. Much to my surprise, and the joy of the family, he did just that at Arlington National Cemetary. My friends father had been a navy man for some 33 years....President Reagan walked up prior to the graveside service, sat down next to the man, and more than once put an arm around him for comfort. I will admit, it still waters my eyes even now, when I handed the folded flag to my friends father.

Thank You, Mr Reagan. From All of Us.


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06-06-2004 02:42 AM  13 years agoPost 7
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"Mr. Gorbachov, tear down this wall."

And that signaled the end of Communism. With one phrase he did what no one thought possible. Truly a great President.

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06-06-2004 03:47 AM  13 years agoPost 8
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The United States could not have asked for a better president during the tail end of the cold war.
Ronald Reagan was one in a million. A true leader. He lived and died with a dignity we could only wish to achieve.
RIP Ron. You deserve it.

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06-06-2004 04:05 AM  13 years agoPost 9
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Gods' speed President Reagan!

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06-06-2004 04:53 AM  13 years agoPost 10
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The world will never be the same... He was an amazing man
RIP "jelly bean man"

Jason /// Sceadu50/9chp WWW.Jagboy69.com

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06-06-2004 11:04 PM  13 years agoPost 11
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Really sorry to hear about his passing, a great man and one of your greatest presidents. A spot in mount rushmore would be a fitting tribute

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06-06-2004 11:26 PM  13 years agoPost 12
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Mark Steyn.........

All Saturday across the networks, media grandees who’d voted for Carter and Mondale, just like all their friends did, tried to explain the appeal of Ronald Reagan. He was “The Great Communicator”, he had a wonderful sense of humour, he had a charming smile… self-deprecating… the tilt of his head…


All true, but not what matters. Even politics attracts its share of optimistic, likeable men, and most of them leave no trace – like Britain’s “Sunny Jim” Callaghan, a perfect example of the defeatism of western leadership in the 1970s. It was the era of “détente”, a word barely remembered now, which is just as well, as it reflects poorly on us: the Presidents and Prime Ministers of the free world had decided that the unfree world was not a prison ruled by a murderous ideology that had to be defeated but merely an alternative lifestyle that had to be accommodated. Under cover of “détente”, the Soviets gobbled up more and more real estate across the planet, from Ethiopia to Grenada. Nonetheless, it wasn’t just the usual suspects who subscribed to this grubby evasion – Helmut Schmidt, Pierre Trudeau, Francois Mitterand – but most of the so-called “conservatives”, too – Ted Heath, Giscard d’Estaing, Gerald Ford.


Unlike these men, unlike most other senior Republicans, Ronald Reagan saw Soviet Communism for what it was: a great evil. Millions of Europeans across half a continent from Poland to Bulgaria, Slovenia to Latvia live in freedom today because he acknowledged that simple truth when the rest of the political class was tying itself in knots trying to pretend otherwise. That’s what counts. He brought down the “evil empire”, and all the rest is fine print.


At the time, the charm and the smile got less credit from the intelligentsia, confirming their belief that he was a dunce who’d plunge us into Armageddon. Everything you need to know about the establishment’s view of Ronald Reagan can be found on page 624 of Dutch, Edmund Morris’ weird post-modern biography. The place is Berlin, the time June 12, 1987:


‘Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!’ declaims Dutch, trying hard to look infuriated, but succeeding only in an expression of mild petulance ... One braces for a flash of prompt lights to either side of him: APPLAUSE.


What a rhetorical opportunity missed. He could have read Robert Frost’s poem on the subject, ‘Something there is that doesn’t love a wall,’ to simple and shattering effect. Or even Edna St. Vincent Millay’s lines, which he surely holds in memory…


    Only now for the first time I see
    This wall is actually a wall, a thing
    Come up between us, shutting me away
    From you ... I do not know you any more.

Poor old Morris, the plodding, conventional, scholarly writer driven mad by 14 years spent trying to get a grip on Ronald Reagan. Most world leaders would have taken his advice: You’re at the Berlin Wall, so you have to say something about it, something profound but oblique, maybe there’s a poem on the subject ... Who cares if Frost’s is over-quoted, and a tad hard to follow for a crowd of foreigners? Who cares that it is, in fact, pro-wall - a poem in praise of walls?


Edmund Morris has described his subject as an “airhead” and concluded that it’s “like dropping a pebble in a well and hearing no splash.” Morris may not have heard the splash, but he’s still all wet: The elites were stupid about Reagan in a way that only clever people can be. Take that cheap crack: If you drop a pebble in a well and you don’t hear a splash, it may be because the well is dry but it’s just as likely it’s because the well is of surprising depth. I went out to my own well and dropped a pebble: I heard no splash, yet the well supplies exquisite translucent water to my home.


But then I suspect it’s a long while since Morris dropped an actual pebble in an actual well: As with walls, his taste runs instinctively to the metaphorical. Reagan looked at the Berlin Wall and saw not a poem-quoting opportunity but prison bars.


I once discussed Irving Berlin, composer of “God Bless America”, with his friend and fellow songwriter Jule Styne, and Jule put it best: “It’s easy to be clever. But the really clever thing is to be simple.” At the Berlin Wall that day, it would have been easy to be clever, as all those ’70s detente sophisticates would have been. And who would have remembered a word they said? Like Irving Berlin with “God Bless America”, only Reagan could have stood there and declared without embarrassment:


   Tear down this wall!

- and two years later the wall was, indeed, torn down. Ronald Reagan was straightforward and true and said it for everybody - which is why his “rhetorical opportunity missed” is remembered by millions of grateful Eastern Europeans. The really clever thing is to have the confidence to say it in four monosyllables.


Reagan was an American archetype, and just the bare bones of his curriculum vitae capture the possibilities of his country: in the Twenties, a lifeguard at a local swimming hole who saved over 70 lives; in the Thirties, a radio sports announcer; in the Forties, a Warner Brothers leading man ...and finally one of the two most significant presidents of the American century. Unusually for the commander in chief, Reagan’s was a full, varied American life, of which the presidency was the mere culmination.


“The Great Communicator” was effective because what he was communicating was self-evident to all but our dessicated elites: “We are a nation that has a government - not the other way around.” And at the end of a grim, grey decade - Vietnam, Watergate, energy crises, Iranian hostages – Americans decided they wanted a President who looked like the nation, not like its failed government. Thanks to his clarity, around the world, governments that had nations have been replaced by nations that have governments. Most of the Warsaw Pact countries are now members of Nato, with free markets and freely elected parliaments.


One man who understood was Yakob Ravin, a Ukrainian émigré who in the summer of 1997 happened to be strolling with his grandson in Armand Hammer Park near Reagan’s California home. They happened to see the former President, out taking a walk. Mr Ravin went over and asked if he could take a picture of the boy and the President. When they got back home to Ohio, it appeared in the local newspaper, The Toledo Blade.


Ronald Reagan was three years into the decade-long twilight of his illness, and unable to recognize most of his colleagues from the Washington days. But Mr Ravin wanted to express his appreciation. “Mr President,” he said, “thank you for everything you did for the Jewish people, for Soviet people, to destroy the Communist empire.”


And somewhere deep within there was a flicker of recognition. “Yes,” said the old man, “that is my job.”


Yes, that was his job.

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06-07-2004 02:00 AM  13 years agoPost 13
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Excellent Post. I think to sum it all up is the term "Servant Leadership".

I had an argument this morning at the local flying field with a couple of guys who were trying to downplay the "infactuation" the republicans have with RR. Boy did my blood boil, but in the end, they came to a pistol fight with knives. They had no facts. I did. They had liberal retorical regurgitations at best. They even went as far as to say the US was worse in some ways than the USSR!! Typical liberal drivel, equating the US to Communism and Facism and Nazism.

I have had first hand look at the Evil Empire RR helped destroy, when I was on temp assignment in the former USSR in the mid 90s. In fact I even brought a wonderful woman home with me as my wife when it was all through. My wife and many of her friends LOVE Mr. Reagan. In fact one of her friends has portatrit of him over her bed. They, who have lived first hand under the oppression know best.

My wife had earned a PhD over there and while going through school, she had to register her typewriter...thats right, register her typewriter. This way they could trace her down in the event she was printing up and distributing anti-soviet propaganda. She also did interpreting both inside and outside the country. While on these trips, there was always a KGB agent who tagged along, to prevent any defections and to control what was said.

My two word summary of communism is this " Shared Poverty". there were two classes of people back then, the people in gov't (who were wealthy) and the rest who were ALL poor. They did hawever do very well with the limited resources they had, but they were no doubt technically inferior to US in almost every field.

RR say the Soviet for what it was and did something about it regardless of the critsism he endured,....the sign of true leadership. Thank God for RR . I'm sure that he is in Heaven and God has already told him " Well done, my faithful servant"

Light travels faster than sound, thats why some people appear so bright UNTIL you hear them speak.

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06-07-2004 06:31 AM  13 years agoPost 14
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Many people have been saddened by this day. The great thing is that not one person has a bad thing to say about this man. It truly shows how our world has taken a turn for the worse and nobody has the balls to take control of this country these days. He will be missed and hpefully someone can fill his shoes some day!!

I am confused?

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06-07-2004 08:37 AM  13 years agoPost 15
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Thanks Reagan for his anti-communism. /Salute



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