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06-03-2004 12:18 PM  13 years agoPost 1
ChrisClarke

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hi,
i've decieded i want to get into heli flying.. so did a bit of research.. and have just bourght a secondhand raptor 30..

here are the specs:
Raptor 30V2
JR 662 transmitter
TT39 engine
JR 700 receiver
csm180 gyro
battery checker
5 x JR 537 servos

can you give me some advice about whats good and whats bad about this setup.. things i'll need to look at.. things that might need upgrading.. it looks pretty basic at the mo..

thanks
chris

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06-03-2004 12:59 PM  13 years agoPost 2
Parsifal

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Get yerself a training undercarriage, some fuel and someone to help with the set up, if this is your first attempt at Helicopters. Having someone experienced around will save you a heap of trouble.

Setup is adequate as you can upgrade as stuff gets damaged or worn.

Pars.

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06-03-2004 01:56 PM  13 years agoPost 3
KGB

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Get Reflex Simulator

If you don't already have a simulator, I don't think I can stress enough how important having one would be. Especially to your wallet. There will be a few people on here that disregard the necessity of the simulator but I'd venture to say that at least 80% on here feel the same way about them as me. I'm just a beginner myself and I know that if I hadn't had a simulator I would've crashed and crashed.
Having someone that knows how to setup a heli to look it over is invaluable also.

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06-03-2004 01:58 PM  13 years agoPost 4
ChrisClarke

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hi,
cheers for the info..

theres a few bits like a glow starter and stuff like that i need to get.. so might take it all along to a model shop and get all the stuff i need..

rgds
chris

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06-03-2004 02:10 PM  13 years agoPost 5
KGB

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Hehe. Make sure you have that wallet ready Everytime I go to the hobby store I spend way more than I had anticipated The other day my wife asked me how much I was going to spend, I said, "Ahh..like $10-15." I ended up spending $240

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06-03-2004 02:21 PM  13 years agoPost 6
Raffy

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You will need a lot of patience and money !.
Have fun and good luck to you.

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06-03-2004 03:51 PM  13 years agoPost 7
DeanM

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As KGB says ... Bring your wallet. My last crash the wife asked "How much for this crash" ... I said ... "Oh ... about $250"... She asked, "Does that include your new blades?" ...I said..."Oops ... more like $330" (I'd just been telling her how much I was enjoying my new CF mains). Bless her heart, she never complains, but she does have a pretty good idea how much it costs!

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06-03-2004 03:51 PM  13 years agoPost 8
ChrisClarke

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hi,
cheers guys... many people here fly raptors? what do you recon i should upgrade first.. haven't got the heli yet but it looks pretty stock..

(of course need to get all the basic stuff first!)

rgds
chris

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06-03-2004 05:37 PM  13 years agoPost 9
nivlek

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Get some air time before you even think about upgrading what you have.As already mentioned, the sim is the way to go.

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06-03-2004 05:53 PM  13 years agoPost 10
allns47

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You will be wasting your money to upgrade anything on your raptor..It flys fine stock and upgrades you do nothing for it except empty your wallet..If you want to upgrade save your cash and get a better radio..I had the 662 radio when I started and when you go into ff and back into a hover the heli always stalled a bit..You need a radio with 5 point curves...........imo

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06-03-2004 06:25 PM  13 years agoPost 11
gmeister45

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The Raptor is a good one to learn on, and I second the 'get help' and 'use a simulator'.

gary

Gary - Its not if, but when you crash!!

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06-03-2004 08:51 PM  13 years agoPost 12
ChrisClarke

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hi,
cheers for the info guys.. allns57 that is useful to know.. can you guys explain to me a little about the transmitters.. i haven't used new transmiters before (or more than 2 channel ones really)... what sort of features do they have and what are they used for (the features that is not the transmiters ahahaha)..

my knowledge of heli flying is not that good, mainly because i've only got interested in it in the last few weeks or so.. however when i get into a hobby i like to learn as much about it as possible.. any good sites around for heli flying basics...etc?

thanks guys
chris

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06-04-2004 02:19 AM  13 years agoPost 13
KGB

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For raptors and general information try:

http://www.raptortechnique.com/

And to get every other kind of information you don't have to go any further than this site here. Think about what you want to know about and perform a search on it and you'd be amazed at all the history is here. Then if it's old information you might want to restart a new thread on it to get some fresh insight on the subject.

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06-04-2004 11:12 AM  13 years agoPost 14
czechyour6

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Maybe look at a Futaba 9252 tail rotor servo or similar, something fast, less than .10 sec rate, will help keep your bird pointed straight, not much torque is needed, now go have fun, GOOD LUCK!

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06-04-2004 12:25 PM  13 years agoPost 15
RCHELIFANATIC

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Go build yourself a training undercarrage. PVC four way coupler 4 wiffle balls and some pvc pipe. Glue it permanent.

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06-04-2004 03:37 PM  13 years agoPost 16
acwman

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I agree that for beginners the basic Raptor does not need upgrading. Just ensure that you have the full ballrace version, otherwise upgrade with a bearing upgrade kit. Beginners can spend their money on Fuel, but also a sim would be VERY Worthwhile. Reflex XTR is good, but you do need quite a specced machine to run it nicely, though think that G2, is also worth a look...and a mention.

After you're past the hovering stage and into flight, a TX with 5 point curves will do wonders..

Wouldn't agree with 'allns47'
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'It flys fine stock and upgrades you do nothing for it except empty your wallet'
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Total rubbish! There are upgrades out there that will do a world of difference for the Raptor....It's just if you are capable of making use of them!

Don't tell me a nice set of carbon blades have no advantage over the standard wodden blades??!!

Or...maybe a metal head block with grips? Fly hard aggressive manouvors with the standard block, damping, and grips, you'll be bringing your raptor home in a Bin Bag!

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06-04-2004 04:10 PM  13 years agoPost 17
ChrisClarke

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hi,
cheers guys..

so when i get past the hovering stage get new radio gear..
new carbon blades.. thats a nice and easy one todo..
better gyro

want about boom mount tail servo?

metal head block? is that the whole head or just part of it that holds the blades?

thanks
chris

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06-04-2004 11:44 PM  13 years agoPost 18
acwman

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Hi Chris,

Good to see that you are at least keen!

Are you in a club? You would get a lot of help, and learn a lot from more experienced flyers. Where in the UK are you??

Once you are more proficient in flying, you'll notice every upgrade will make some difference. With your setup, I guess a better gyro, and tail servo will be high on the list.

Don't rush into it and spend too much on upgrades...as I say what you have will be good enough for the learning to hover stage....and into flight.

Boom mounted servo is not that essential..just gives a more direct control of the rudder..and also making the link to the tail more rigid.

The headblock is the part that holds the blade grips. Have a look at my gallery to see some examples of a headblock.

I wouldn't bother with carbon blades until you are at least flying circuits proficiently...

Hope this helps answer few of your questions!

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06-05-2004 02:26 AM  13 years agoPost 19
drsuessmn

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). Bless her heart, she never complains
How do you do that?

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06-05-2004 03:10 AM  13 years agoPost 20
allns47

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Richmond IN.

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acwman

I do agree with you there that carbon blades are nice but at the first stage of learning a newbie would not be able to feel the difference between wood and carbon blades..Save your money and fly the woodies until you can fly FF...Any other upgrades is a total waste...The head has min. slob and all controls are smooth stock....Please do not get trapped in the upgrade game....I did when I first got into it and finally realized that I could of bought another heli or 2 from all the money I dumped into upgrades..And you know what...Could not tell a difference in flight between my upgrades and when it was stock....But it sure looked good...

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