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HelicopterMain Discussion › raptor or sceadu?
06-03-2004 04:26 AM  13 years agoPost 1
painly

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sasaktoon, sk, canada

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want to get myself a machine that can 3d a little better then my eolo. im thinking a 50 size is a good one to start with. which one is better? is hirobo's price tag any indication of it being better?

thanks

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06-03-2004 04:31 AM  13 years agoPost 2
JoeBecker

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I'd say Raptor 50, it's hard to beat. It's less expensive, and you get both wood and carbon blades, a header tank, graphite base plate, metal swashplate, and other upgrades as standard. I wish I'd gotten one (instead of the 30), as there are so many other pilots with them around me and the performance I've seen is unbelievable. Another plus is the greater availability of replacement parts, at what equates to 30 size pricing since the Raptor 30 & 50 share so many parts. I just started upgrading my 30 to the 50 and I can't believe how much more you get just buying the 50 as a kit!

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06-03-2004 04:35 AM  13 years agoPost 3
Peter65

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Base price difference between them is negligable and parts are not much different either.

As stated above what do the local fly, what do the local shops deal in?

If the local shops or flyers have neither machine then it's a 50/50 deal. Your choice.

Personally I think the Raptor is a bit stronger in the design of the frames.

I will say this

Don't buy a 30 with the intention of upgrading it to a 50 later. Buy the 50 first up. Upgrading will cost you close to a new 50 will anyway.

Laughing at yourself will lengthen your life. Laughing at me will shorten it...

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06-03-2004 05:19 AM  13 years agoPost 4
Bird_E

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FWIW

I have a Raptor 60, Raptor 30 and an EVO 50.

I will not put raptors down... Best bang for the the buck. But the quality of the EVO is one notch above the raptors, and is a little more expensive. The EVO tends to be a more stable smoother flying heli then the raptor. The raptor50 is a wild 3D machine. The Evo can do both 3D and is much better for the smoother FAI type of stuff...
This is all my opinion!
Bob

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06-03-2004 05:43 AM  13 years agoPost 5
painly

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wow thanks for all the input

as far as what is flown here, well no one really fly's helis (out of the 150 in the club, maybe 5 fly them and its a mix), and the hobby store doesnt sell any stuff for them. so its an ordering thing all the way around.

the one main thing i didnt like about the raptor was it was not ccpm, all i can remember is that my kysosho concept wasnt, and it sucked, so as to be expected that leaves a stale taste in the mouth./ That said, the people ive talked to just rave about the r50.

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06-03-2004 09:33 AM  13 years agoPost 6
nivlek

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I would't worry about a heli not being of the electronic ccmp type,my old
TSK Mystar 46 isn't and it is probably the most precise heli that I have
ever flown.

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06-03-2004 10:25 AM  13 years agoPost 7
mrNoodles

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06-03-2004 10:30 AM  13 years agoPost 8
Davo

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Precision Aerobatics Challenge 50

Best of both (maybe)

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06-03-2004 10:55 AM  13 years agoPost 9
I3DM

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Israel

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This has been discussed a milion times.
the EVO 50 is simply a higher quality, higher flight spec machine !

www.liorzahavi.com

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06-03-2004 11:06 AM  13 years agoPost 10
Parsifal

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Won't make a god damned difference which one you buy, you'll crash it, smash it and bash it during the course of learning to 3d and buy yourself a 90 sized model before you'll need to worry about the marginal differences between the raptor and the sceadu.

Buy whichever one you think looks nicer and you see more of at your flying field. Also, think about the availability of spares.

Don't pay attention to either heli's groupies, there is very little between them.

Pars.

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06-03-2004 11:53 AM  13 years agoPost 11
Waldo

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I fly Raptors and have been very happy with them but I have to be honest, the Evo is a higer quality machine. Either way you really can't go wrong.

[b]Bill[/b]

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06-03-2004 12:37 PM  13 years agoPost 12
mrNoodles

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Either way you really can't go wrong
True!

/Fredrik
'Hm now I just have to find out where to connect the GV1 sensor to the Jazz80 ESC.

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06-03-2004 12:54 PM  13 years agoPost 13
blakka_1

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lol, seneca's back

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06-03-2004 01:00 PM  13 years agoPost 14
blakka_1

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the EVO 50 is simply a higher quality, higher flight spec machine
is there anything a EVO can do that a raptor cant??? i dont think so

yeah it is a higher qualit kit, no doubt about it, but then again it costs more so i would expect it to be of a higher quality

no way is the evo BETTER than the raptor when it comes to flight characteristics. the two machines perform equally IMHO

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06-03-2004 01:00 PM  13 years agoPost 15
blakka_1

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Do you think I left
no i dont think you got left, i know what happened 2 u

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06-03-2004 01:06 PM  13 years agoPost 16
blakka_1

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quality doesnt really bother me, its the performance that i want. im not like those heli pilot's that just sit there at the field and make there heli look pretty.

i want a heli that can take a beating while at the same time has good 3d capability, thats y i bought a raptor, it suited me best.

i spend my money on performance, not quality

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06-03-2004 01:06 PM  13 years agoPost 17
Davo

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I'm getting serious deja vu here

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06-03-2004 01:10 PM  13 years agoPost 18
mrNoodles

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i want a heli that can take a beating while at the same time has good 3d capability
Yepp its sad that the EVO cant do either...

/Fredrik
'Hm now I just have to find out where to connect the GV1 sensor to the Jazz80 ESC.

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06-03-2004 01:14 PM  13 years agoPost 19
blakka_1

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i did not say the evo could not take a beating and i did not say that it is not 3d capable

i just wanted a heli that had those characteristics
CRAPtor
you should consult the whole szabo family on that

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06-03-2004 01:16 PM  13 years agoPost 20
mrNoodles

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No thats true, but you did say they boomstrike very easliy.

/Fredrik
'Hm now I just have to find out where to connect the GV1 sensor to the Jazz80 ESC.

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