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HelicopterHIROBOOther › Ideas on how to make shutlle more 3d?
06-02-2004 10:44 PM  13 years agoPost 1
snookfishnjoe

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Anybody have some good ideas on making my shuttle more agile. Wright now I have been flying this one for almost a year. I am looking for it to be more aggressive. The roll rate is slow and the flip rate is also slow. I just bought a set of TT carbon blades 550 and I didn’t notice too much of a difference flying circuits, but I did notice how my heli autos now WOW what a difference. With the woodies, an auto was just a controlled crash, but the carbons, I can have some fun with it. I also just adjusted the gyro (thanks sweetP) the tail actually has some authority now, I have the 401, and the remote was only set to 80 on the atv for both sides, well I simply forgot that the atv controls the speed on the 401. Also the limit was increased to about 120 on the actual gyro. So that gave it a little more throw. Anyway I was wondering if somebody had some experience with this heli and has some ideas. I am probably going to have to adjust all the linkages so I can get max throw. I do have another post up in the main section seeing if anybody had the measurements of there control rods, with a set up of –9 +9
Thanks Joe

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06-02-2004 10:51 PM  13 years agoPost 2
cnsheets

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Buy an Evo, retire the shuttle

---Freya Evo TJ Pro/Rev Max(rep) Magnum(rep)

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06-02-2004 11:07 PM  13 years agoPost 3
Clearance

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Heavy carbon blades do make any heli auto better (rotating mass). However, they slow the cyclic rates down. So I use 105 -110 gram woodies; preferring crashing autos over 3D performance. I leave auto practices for 50 and 60 size helis.

Your cyclic response maybe slightly slower than larger helis, but you can still do multiple slow rolls and large loops. Take time to learn backwards upright and inverted flight. Sideways inverted... piro circles... etc.

The bottom line is to do as much as you can with the 30 before moving up. Learn the basics. Fast cyclic response is not an advantage if you don't know what to do with it :=)

Ken

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06-03-2004 03:09 AM  13 years agoPost 4
Royrex

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First, do the grip flip. You will need it.
Carbon boom.
V paddles. With weights.
Carbon tail blades.
Aluminum washout arms and slider.
Aluminum mixer arms.
Ervine 39 with CY pipe.
TG 135gram 550mm blades.

3D with the best of them and great autos!

Roy

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06-03-2004 03:13 AM  13 years agoPost 5
snookfishnjoe

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whats the grip flip, just like it sounds? flip the grips, why?

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06-03-2004 03:19 AM  13 years agoPost 6
Royrex

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You might have flutter problems.
Flipping the blade grips from trailing to leading
will prevent this.

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06-03-2004 03:23 AM  13 years agoPost 7
capebob

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You won't need the grip flip on a shuttle I'm not a Hirobo guy, but I fly with SENECA and Jennifer (RR members) and although they have moved on to Evos they could 3D the crap out of a Shuttle.

Bob

Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm. Churchill

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06-03-2004 03:24 AM  13 years agoPost 8
capebob

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There you are Bill. Help the old snook fisherman.

Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm. Churchill

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06-03-2004 03:30 AM  13 years agoPost 9
mudbogger2

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Put on a set of KSJ paddles and use the rear mounting holes!

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06-03-2004 06:47 AM  13 years agoPost 10
Dave_D

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Shuttle should do fine...

Change the paddles first.

Increase pitch range by using longer servo horn. If it hits the rudder servo, insert washers in the rudder servo mounting area to clear it.

I honestly don't trust the stock blade grips on the shuttle, they look too flimsy for sustained 3D. I'd change them to metal ones, but not necessarily the pricey hirobo ones.. even the century metal blade grips would do the job just fine.

To squeeze every last bit of power out of the 30 size engine, I'd fit a tuned pipe into it.

BUT.... please add up how much it's going to cost for all the hop-ups. A hopped up shuttle wouldn't still be nearly as good as a bone stock EVO 50 IMO.

If you're finding the shuttle's performance lacking already for your kind of flying, I suggest you move on to a better model and sell the stock shuttle to the next guy just like I did.

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