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06-02-2004 03:42 AM  13 years agoPost 1
groundeffect

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Do you use something similar to eyetop's to view and frame your stills and/or video from your camera ship?


OR


Do you position the cameraship and shot without knowing what the camera really sees?

I want to get an idea of how many of us actually use downlinks for remote framing and viewing.

cheers,
Dean

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06-02-2004 05:04 AM  13 years agoPost 2
daggit

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I've always used a downlink and cameraperson. With the exception of situations like this weekend when I had everything I needed except something to plug the tv in with

I just had the cameraperson guess. I said point it everywhere and click a bunch of pics

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06-02-2004 05:15 AM  13 years agoPost 3
FLAP

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I have found you can take some very good photos without the downlink, especially neighborhood shots etc. The down link comes in handy if you are on a shoot that requires more well framed shots, such as a single house or property.

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06-02-2004 09:30 PM  13 years agoPost 4
Slartibartfast

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Since we have cheap, high-resolution cameras now, it seems like the easiest thing to do would be to not worry at all about framing while you are flying. Just take lots of pictures from far enough away so that you know you are getting everything in the frame. And then later, clean it all up, frame it, whatever, in Photoshop.

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06-03-2004 01:03 AM  13 years agoPost 5
mwp

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Chatham, Ontario, Canada

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Thumbs up for a quality Downlink!

Previously without.
Lots of flying with the associated risk.
Lots of shots, blind hope that we got a good one that time.
Repeated flights to try again.

And now with.
Less flight time required.
Ground crew and customer can see and help direct the shot.
Lots of great pictures to choose from, some we hadn't considered from the ground.
On to the next location.

Mark

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06-03-2004 09:26 AM  13 years agoPost 6
MPA

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Mark, there is one factor you left out that folks should consider.

Payment for the job / 1 = you get the lot
Payment for the job / 2 = you get less, maybe half.

Some might be better to do it alone for the best financial outcome for them as the pilot/owner.

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06-03-2004 11:27 AM  13 years agoPost 7
groundeffect

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Hey guys, thank you for your comments and votes on this.


MPA has a good point.

I am interested in remoting viewing for this very reason, to make it a one man job.


cheers,
Dean

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06-03-2004 05:30 PM  13 years agoPost 8
gpyros

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The other option that I've seen people use is to have their wife/girlfriend as cameraperson. Gets her involved, and then she will be more understanding when you spend money on equipment! And at least all the income still stays in the family!

I much perfer to fly with another person around, they act as a second set of eyes for safety - watching out for people, pets, etc.

Greg

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06-03-2004 06:51 PM  13 years agoPost 9
daggit

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I much perfer to fly with another person around, they act as a second set of eyes for safety
I second that.. when I was shooting the water tower last week a very friendly Black Lab came to visit while I was still in the air. I was glad to have some help to distract the stray pup.

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06-03-2004 07:06 PM  13 years agoPost 10
Jared J

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I don't mind 50/50. Especially if both are footing equipment costs.

Daggit,

Don't tell us how friendly

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06-03-2004 07:10 PM  13 years agoPost 11
Polariman

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I am a one man show that uses a downlink/eyetop system. I find the eyetops very useful. However, I am only taking split second glances into the monitor to see if my target is in the area.

Even with the eyetops I still find myself taking lots of pictures to make sure I have good coverage. As my skills grow I may be able to fly by monitor (eyetops) but that is a long ways away.

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06-03-2004 07:59 PM  13 years agoPost 12
daggit

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Don't tell us how friendly
Not THAT friendly, he would have been happy to fetch the heli though

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06-03-2004 08:33 PM  13 years agoPost 13
heliraptor

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I agree

Although it can be done alone, I always have a second person with me to keep an eye out for people entering safety zones, dogs, cats etc etc, usually my other half

She doesnt get paid though so I win all round

I WISH !!!!!!!!!!

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06-04-2004 08:20 AM  13 years agoPost 14
FCM

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I do use a camera person/downlink as often as I can get one and even if I am shooting with the downlink and camera motion not working, I have to have somebody as a safety person as just about everywhere I fly attracts curious onlookers who have little understanding of the dangers involved.

Paul.

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06-04-2004 07:11 PM  13 years agoPost 15
daggit

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If your short groundcrew you can draft the client or other onlookers (in SOME cases) to help clear the LZ. Even though you can't hold them accountable for thier spotting apptitude, an extra set of eyes is better then nothing, and sometimes they like being involved.

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06-04-2004 07:30 PM  13 years agoPost 16
Polariman

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I am now using small orange field cones to designate the LZ and will have a "Caution" or "Stay Away" Sign.

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