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06-01-2004 04:28 PM  13 years agoPost 1
snsn

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I've been reading up on the copilot and it sounds like a good item.
The new version for CCPM is $200, but it would pay for itself quickly if it works well and prevents a crash.

I want to get one for my Logo 10 and would like some feedback regarding it's use and ease of setup/install.

Thanks!

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06-01-2004 05:09 PM  13 years agoPost 2
maller

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Co-pilot is great. It does exactly what it claims to do. Mine was cheaper - maybe $110? I think if you get that version, you'll be fine. You also may be able to find a used one - some people tend to sell them once they've learned to fly.

Some will say not to get it - that it's better to learn without it. That's your decision. It's kind of like riding a bike. What's better - To put on training wheels first? Or, skip the training wheels, and just keep crashing until you get it right?



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06-01-2004 05:47 PM  13 years agoPost 3
snsn

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Thanks for your reply.

Are you saying that the standard version(non CCPM) will work for my Logo 10?
What will the standard one do?

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06-01-2004 05:54 PM  13 years agoPost 4
Supertoyz

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I absolutely love mine! It's saved my behind countless times. I installed it after I'd mastered hovering and was practicing FF. Having the CP installed has allowed me to fly above the level I would be flying at without it. Without the fear of crashing I'm out working on my skills and not my nerves.

PS - I'm 1/2 way through my 3rd gallon of fuel and pulled of my first loop this weekend. Three of them to be exact. They were not exactly round but they were loops!

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06-01-2004 06:00 PM  13 years agoPost 5
maller

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snsn - I THINK so. I'm new to this, so I'm not quite sure. My LHS set me up with the FMA Co-pilot 2months ago - it was $120. So, it's not the top-of-the-line Co-Pilot. You may want to wait for some other replys.

Do a search on RunRyder. You'll find all sorts of comments. Also, post a message in the classifieds - you should be able to find a used one.



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06-01-2004 06:44 PM  13 years agoPost 6
bobc1

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I purchased the $250 version with the Z axis sensors & PC interface cord. It is installed on an Evo 50/OS 50/9CHP combo.

It works like magic. I am to the point of mild (sloppy) 3D flying & just use the FS8CP system as a bailout switch. Generally, other than to test it, I don't use it at all...but...the knowledge that it is there allows me to fly much farther out & practice 3D much higher than I would feel comfortable without it.

I use a 3 position switch with one position completely off, the middle on about 50%, & the third position 100% on. If you switch the CP to 100% while in a stable inverted hover, the HC will aggressively roll, not loop to level upright attitude in a couple of seconds.

If you scare yourself & switch to 100% to save the HC, you will find that you almost cannot fly it in this configuration or that it takes almost full cyclic stick deflection to affect the HC's attitude. By switching to mid position, the CP will keep the level attitude with the cyclic centered but the HC can be flown conventionally, also. This gives you a comfort zone to get over the nerves and reposition the HC before switching the CP completely off, again.

Eric Schaub of FMA was excellent in assisting me with a few perceived problems regarding range checks when I initially installed the FS8CP unit. It turned out that the unit worked fine but we did discover that the range is much better and less directional if you separate the antenna from the boom supports by a couple of inches by utilizing standoffs. I made two standoffs using fuel tubing with small zip ties inside.

The whole system is more than just the CP. The Rx is pretty neat with several innovative features, i.e., fail safe, bad frame count, voltage indication, etc. Generally, my flights record zero bad frames although a couple recorded up to nine bad frames which is completely acceptable.

I highly recommend this system. I'm not sure that it would be good to use it to completely fly the HC as it may hinder your feel for the controls with it off but as a bailout, it is great.

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