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HelicopterBeginners Corner › EVO 50 vs Raptor 50 at equal price
06-02-2004 04:13 PM  13 years agoPost 21
dlflyer

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Buy the brand most used by your club
What if they all bought the wrong one just because the first guy made a bad choice? I like to spend my money on what I feel is the best choice with the infomation I can get. A statement like that is so offten seen here on RR and is of very little help to the old school of thinking and learning.

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06-02-2004 04:38 PM  13 years agoPost 22
pilotError

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Old School

A statement like that is so offten seen here on RR and is of very little help to the old school of thinking and learning.
How so? The reason so many people give this advice is because this guy will eventually run into a problem that he can't figure out. Since nobody at the field has one either, he's on his own and has to come to RR for info or beat his head against the wall figuring something out.

I have a few of these guys at my field who are stuck because they want to be different then can't figure out how to fix their own problems. It's demoralizing and time consuming for a new guy when something happens and nobody can help. I've seen guys sell heli's just because of something stupid that they didn't understand.

In this case, I don't think either heli is a bad choice. I gave up my raptors for the sceadu and haven't look back. I don't miss them at all.

Mike...

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06-02-2004 06:14 PM  13 years agoPost 23
blakka_1

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i have had both helis and the evo is not better than the raptor. i believe they are equal. its too hard to pick between the two.

when this question is asked it is impossible to get an unbiased answer, people will just vote for the heli they have.

i think that you should get a heli that is most popular in your area, therefore others can help you with setup or other problems.

so if the evo is most popular in your area get the EVO

if the raptor is more popular in your area get the RAPTOR

its important to but a heli which others around you are familiar with, as you really dont want to buy a heli that no1 can help you with.

find out which heli is most used in ur area, also which heli is the easied to get spare parts for.

hope this helps dude

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06-02-2004 06:23 PM  13 years agoPost 24
dlflyer

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Mike, Demoralizing is when you have to only fly your Heli when someone can tell you what to do because you didn't want to do your homework. Just buy your ARF and bring it to the field, let somebody set it up and bingo your done. If people have sold their Heli because they didn't want to take the time to THINK about the problem maybe it's an injury saved to someone nearby when things get out of hand.

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06-02-2004 07:44 PM  13 years agoPost 25
pilotError

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Glass half full

Well, we both know we can argue back and forth about this, but just to give you an example.

If nobody had a raptor at the local field and suddenly this new guy comes out with one and it starts doing the raptor dance while spooling up, all the other guys would be bitchin about the crappy job this guy did building it, you got a bent shaft, my heli doesn't do that, it's not normal, etc, etc...

Anybody who's had a raptor knows that almost every one does it at a certain RPM. Some worse than others. Where would a new guy even begin to go looking for something like that. He'd pull it apart, go back over the instructions, replace the bearings, take it to the LHS, basically frustration.

My point is chasing ghosts is a killer. You and I spend the time here on RR and have the benefit of various opinions. Some poor bastard who walked into the LHS and received "expert" help may not be so fortunate. I started learning in my back yard. I didn't know anyone who flew heli's until the old RCO came around. I've since hooked up with a bunch of great guys and have learned alot, but most of my early flying was learned the hard way (aka the Expensive way!)

Why make life difficult, buy what everyone else has until you know enough to go it alone. This hobby is hard enough...

I agree that you should do your homework, but I bet you can do a search on here and find 14 different ways to setup your raptor 30. Until you have some experience you really don't know why nobody will respond to the "what should my throttle and pitch curves be". Face time goes a long way in education. Some people just don't get it even after telling them 3 or 4 times. Theory and setup is a lot to absorb when your just starting out. A well setup machine is easier to learn to hover on than a "Got it to work" setup. The deeper theory of Throttle/Pitch curves, exponentials, mixing, etc., can come at an easier pace.

Mike...

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06-02-2004 08:44 PM  13 years agoPost 26
dlflyer

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AMEN BROTHER

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