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HelicopterRadio - Servo - Gyro - Gov - Batt › which one? tuned pipe or govenor
05-01-2004 04:31 AM  13 years agoPost 1
raptor602000

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i`m contemplating either a TJ with the stock TT muffler or a CY MP1 or MP 2, what would the resulting headspeed be with the version 2 pipe. i`ve run the first edition pipe, with good results but wound up selling it to my buddy. the power plant is a TT 50 in an R 50 V2

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05-01-2004 04:34 AM  13 years agoPost 2
sagar34

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How about both?

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05-01-2004 04:36 AM  13 years agoPost 3
raptor602000

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i`ve read where they will fight each other, that it`s best to use either a govenor , or tuned pipe?

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05-01-2004 09:48 AM  13 years agoPost 4
G.Man

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both or governor

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05-01-2004 09:52 AM  13 years agoPost 5
Al Magaloff

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I think the governor is most usefull. I also don't see the need for a tuned pipe on a helicopter.
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05-01-2004 10:46 AM  13 years agoPost 6
Dr Lodge

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I use tuned pipes exclusively - fuel is expensive in the UK so low Nitro rules. Anything above 15% is rare.

What about using a governor with a tuned pipe?

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05-01-2004 11:02 AM  13 years agoPost 7
mrNoodles

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As Galifrey said, get both or the TJ

/Fredrik
'Hm now I just have to find out where to connect the GV1 sensor to the Jazz80 ESC.

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05-01-2004 11:07 AM  13 years agoPost 8
jb_turner

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Gov and Tuned Pipe such as the MP1 are not compatable. A Gov and MPII are compatable. I agree with Al just use a Gov and no pipe.

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05-01-2004 11:17 AM  13 years agoPost 9
T.C.

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Gov and Tuned Pipe such as the MP1 are not compatable
Why do you say that.

I use an MP1 & a GV1 on my SE, works a treat.

Tony

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05-01-2004 11:35 AM  13 years agoPost 10
jb_turner

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Because a tuneable pipe will act as a Gov.

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05-01-2004 12:15 PM  13 years agoPost 11
T.C.

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I know that, but you said they were not compatible which is a little misleading.

I find that they work well together.


Tony

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05-01-2004 01:35 PM  13 years agoPost 12
Al Magaloff

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Dr Lodge, agreed. We are spoiled here, with our exclusive use of 30%.
. I have no use for any exhaust system, that's not one piece. Been there, done that, not going back.
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05-01-2004 02:45 PM  13 years agoPost 13
Ben-T-Spindle

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The best combo is the new MP2 50 Q and a GV-1, that’s what I run.

... BTS

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05-01-2004 03:18 PM  13 years agoPost 14
Al Magaloff

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Ben, that IS the best combo on high nitro, maybe not so "best" on low nitro.
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05-01-2004 03:32 PM  13 years agoPost 15
staraero1

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No question here. A governor will provide the best and most engine performance stability for your helicopter. And most likely it will be around a long time, after many of those tuned pipes are long broken and gone.

Put the governor in first. Then try the pipe if you feel you need it. In many cases however, a better brand of engine, or a newer one, is a much better buy then a tuned pipe. Just simply tuning the needles a bit better after installing a governor, is sometimes a better avenue then any tuned pipe will ever be. In many cases an engine will run better right off the bat, after installing a tuned pipe sometimes. Only because the engine needles get tuned closer, right from the start to run the pipes.

Governor or pipe? I say there is no question the governor wins hands down. Then tuning the headspeed and engine needles, after installing the governor, is the best effort and money spent between the two items.

Staraero1

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05-01-2004 06:25 PM  13 years agoPost 16
Ben-T-Spindle

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I am running 20% and it works great. A lot more power that 30% and a muffler, runs longer, and nice and smooth.

... BTS

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05-01-2004 06:33 PM  13 years agoPost 17
raptor602000

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Ben-t-Spindle

hey brother, what set up are you using?

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05-02-2004 04:53 PM  13 years agoPost 18
tailheavy

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Colorado

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Using MP1 and TJ Pro on OS50 , cateye, Magnum #1 2-stroke(~20%nitro) or Magnum 15 if #1 isn't available . So no 30% nitro here .

If I had to choose between pipe and gov - bye bye pipe . The xtra power is great - but the flight performance with gov is a bigger plus IMHO , especially if your still learning about collective managment .

Seems to run great ! - Tuned cateye while running a Mavrik TT clone muffler , then got TJ and finally added MP1 (disabled TJ to tune MP1) .
Expected to need to retune the cateye but to my happy suprise , not needed .

Gotta say the MP1 does not seem nearly as "peaky" as tuned pipes I've used on planks - not difficult or over sensitive to tune .

When would I most likely notice this "incompatabilty" I've read about ?
(Would like to know in what flight conditions to expect problems, maybe I'm just not there yet .)

Did the fellows havin problems with gov and mp1 also have unreliable throttle transitions (like stock 40e carb and 15% nitro) ?

For smooth flying this combo works excellent for me !

Thanks

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