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05-01-2004 03:48 AM  13 years agoPost 41
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Seneca, gib me bakk my helmut!

Foo is young and wants to impress people by being (what he thinks) is funny

IQ test huh? we would have all failed it

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for those who dont remember there was an economic boom in the 90s that made a ton of people wealthy, so things became cheaper and people got more careless with money, especially the noveau rich, and young people.

raptors really have nothing to do with what we're seeing now, they are an effect of it, not the cause.

its said that that the r/c hobby is a 5 billion dollar industry, my supermarket probably does 5 billion in business in this city alone , hobbies are usually the last place money goes to, its one of the least profitable things to spend $ on, so you will see a fair percentage of people who take risks getting into this hobby.

theres more risky people in it now, but they will be weeded out in the next recession, always happens.

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05-01-2004 02:40 PM  13 years agoPost 42
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Chainsaws have gotten less expensive as well, but you dont see everyone rushing into the lumberjack or juggling businesses.

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05-01-2004 02:58 PM  13 years agoPost 43
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Not talking about the chainsaw manufacturing business, more the chainsaw use business.

There will always be people who will buy the high end helicopters, its very likely the same people who've bought them in the past. There will always be people looking to break into the hobby for the least possible initial cost. To be honest, I'd much rather see someone spend $1200 on a raptor 30 kit, engine, radio, gyro, and field gear than to see them spend the same money on a used xcell or fury with unknown history, constuction that they dont understand, etc. ((I agree totally with the arf=bad for helicopter side of that argument.))

The argument that more people getting into the hobby will cause more problems is only true from a purely statistical standpoint. If one out of every 10 people is an idiot now, that ratio will not change for 100 people or 1000. Limiting club memberships is a great way to control this.

This is one reason to fly at clubs. If someone is unsafe, or exhibits recklessness, then they get a one way ticket to elsewhere. If your club does not have practices and policies in place like that, it may be time to get them in place. If you fly at a public place, you do not have this line of defense.

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05-02-2004 01:45 AM  13 years agoPost 44
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Seneca,

"I guess now that every hick comes out of the woodwork and buys these things"

Are you speaking from experience?

"Most people that have expendible cash to spend on toys are usually more responsible"

Oh, puullleeeze. Wallet size = responsibility? I can think of many folks where the inverse is true.

Just admit you've missed it here with your inflammatory remarks. RK's death could just as well have happened at the hands of someone more wealthy. We weren't there, and don't have the facts of what happened. It may well have been a combination of factors: mechanical, wind, pilot error, etc.

Not everyone who buys a budget heli is a hick, just as not everyone who buys a "high-end" (whatever that is) heli is immune to poor judgment or an accident. Had a Hummer owner back into his pal's 421 wing a few months ago, did they not get their innoculation against poor judgment/lack of situational awareness/bad depth perception?

Accidents happen. You're in aviation, you know that. Any human endeavor is statistically prone to a certain level of failure. There are a lot of 'budget' plank fliers, their accident level is not influenced by economic status as much as their level of safety: build quality, preflight, skill level, etc. One of the best plank fliers I know locally is on a tight budget, only uses 148 servos. Yet he's one of the best pattern guys in the state.

Give poor Ron's memory a rest.

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Flying helis since gyros had springs.

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