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04-30-2004 02:42 AM  13 years agoPost 1
snookfishnjoe

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I am setting up my gy601 & gv1 tonight and i have run into a problem. I dont have enough slots in my reciever to fit both of them. I am sure most of you have run into this so what did you do. I can eitheir have a remote gain adjustment for the gy601. or the on-off switch for the gv1. I am thinking that the gv 1 would be more improtant. I know that you can switch the gv1 off with low throttle stick, but i am not comfortable with that, what happens when you want to do an inverted climb out at full throttle. Your gv1 would turn off! Now if i am wrong that would be great. But i am still thinking that i want a seperate switch so i can turn off the gv 1 when i need to. I will need to break in the motor and work out some bugs im sure. Your advice would be greatly appreciated.

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04-30-2004 02:51 AM  13 years agoPost 2
corey11

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Use your throttle stick to turn your govenor on. Make your normal pitch curve a diagnol line. then make your idle up lines a v, with the base of the v and 50%, and the to top parts of the v at 100%.

Remember, the govenor turns on at 15% throttle...If you have anything above 15%, your govenor is active. So in idle ups with a v curve for your throttle curve, it will stay on the whole time.

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04-30-2004 03:14 AM  13 years agoPost 3
rcnuts

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I use a switch to turn the GV-1 on and off on my X-Spec. (with the transmitter) Forget about remote gain on the trans for the gov, set it with the screen on the gov itself. That thing is SO accurate, once you set it, you can forget it. I love my GV-1.
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04-30-2004 03:49 AM  13 years agoPost 4
iskoos

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snookfishnjoe

I am really not sure if I understand the problem. You are saying you don't have enough open channel in your receiver to plug the GV-1 and GY-601?
You don't need to use extra channel to turn on/off the GV-1. And definitely you don't need an extra channel for GY-601. They both have signal wires to be plugged into your receiver and you MUST use them. If you don't, then you wont' be able to control them. Using throttle stick to active the GV-1 will not save you an extra channel on the receiver.
Yes, GV-1 has some extra options but those are if you want to run a on-board mixture servo which you don't need.

So in short, both gyro and governor will have to be plugged into your receiver. Gyro will go into channel 5 and GV-1 will go into Channel 7.
I have the same set up except that I have Gy-502 intead of 601.

Hope this helps

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04-30-2004 03:50 AM  13 years agoPost 5
snookfishnjoe

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how do i set up the gv1 to turn off with the switch in just normal mode. From the looks of things, i have been messing around with it on the table and every time i lower the throttle stick the gv1 reads off. no matter what mode i am in.

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04-30-2004 03:53 AM  13 years agoPost 6
iskoos

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go into GV-1's set up menu and turn off the stick dependent turn on/off option. I don't remember exactly now but I can go and look at it if you want.

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04-30-2004 03:57 AM  13 years agoPost 7
snookfishnjoe

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i understand that they have there own channel, but if you want to turn the gv1 off with a seperate switch you have to plug in the extra aux wire.
now on the gy601 the aux wire controls the gain. It can be controlled on the transmitter, and no they both dont need to be pluged in. So therefor you run out of space on the receiver.

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04-30-2004 04:01 AM  13 years agoPost 8
iskoos

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goto GV-1 menu and set the StSw as INH. That way your throttle stick shouldn't control the governor.

And let me know how many channels you got on your receiver.

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04-30-2004 04:02 AM  13 years agoPost 9
snookfishnjoe

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8
but only 7 slots becouse one is the battery

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04-30-2004 04:04 AM  13 years agoPost 10
snookfishnjoe

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I would like the stick to control the gov. I just dont understand why in the screen it says off even when i am at low stick and in idle up 1 & 2. It is supposed to just turn off in normal mode from my understanding.

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04-30-2004 04:04 AM  13 years agoPost 11
iskoos

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You should still be ok.
You got 5 servos for your heli plus 1 for gyro aux and 1 for Gv-1 aux that make up 7 channels
Why are you short?

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04-30-2004 04:07 AM  13 years agoPost 12
snookfishnjoe

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5 servos = 5 slots
1 gv1= 1 slot
1 gy601= 1slot

1gv1 aux which can be used as a seperate switch to turn it off.=1 slot
1gy601 remote gain= 1 slot


that is a total 9 but becouse the throttle servo plugs into the gyro that means 8, and with only 7 slots.

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04-30-2004 04:10 AM  13 years agoPost 13
iskoos

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Well honestly I didn't set my GV-1 that way. I mean I don't use throttle stick to turn on and off my governor. And personally I wouldn't recommend it.
I would use the GV-1's aux, that way you will control it the way you want. If you don't have open channel, just get a Y-harness and and plug that into where you plugged your battery, If yours is 8-channel receiver, you will still have 8 channels. The battery can be hooked up paralel with a servo.

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04-30-2004 04:14 AM  13 years agoPost 14
snookfishnjoe

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good idea about a y-harness, but on a futaba radio (8uaps) what switch would channel 8 be.

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04-30-2004 04:16 AM  13 years agoPost 15
iskoos

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Ok one more time.

-You got 5 servos (3 cyclic/collective) these take up 3 channels.
-You got 1 throttle that goes into your GV-1 and gv-1 goes into channel 3 and represents throttle.
-And you got one tail servo that goes into your GY-601 and GY601 goes into rudder channel on the receiver.

Up to here you used only 5 channels on the receiver.

Then 1 aux from GV-1 goes into channel 7
And 1 aux from GY601 goes into channel 5

Now that is only 7 channels. If you are not using any battery indicator(voltwatch etc.) you should be fine.
Take a look at your wiring again. I don't think I am missing anything here. You are doing something wrong.

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04-30-2004 04:23 AM  13 years agoPost 16
iskoos

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I hope I was able to help.
Let me know if you get the wiring done.

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04-30-2004 09:52 AM  13 years agoPost 17
mrNoodles

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Joe
Dont you have any nearby that can help you out?

/Fredrik
'Hm now I just have to find out where to connect the GV1 sensor to the Jazz80 ESC.

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04-30-2004 10:30 AM  13 years agoPost 18
brian chan

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I used the 3 ways idle switch to control the GV1 and the GY501, of course you must have a "Y" wire first Why, because I used the "invert" switch to turn on off the GV1 whereas the "Aux2" knob to adjust the extra servo for the remote carb needle. But this type of setting is very troublesome. Gyro gain is co-relate with the GV1 rpm speed. If one go up, the other will go upto because using the same channel. Very trouble, many extra-wires involved causing a bulk of wire near the battery.

Now, I remove everything, the Y wire, the GV1, the extra servo to keep my Raptor 50 body fit.

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04-30-2004 11:26 AM  13 years agoPost 19
EChapkis

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setup

Joe,

You have enough rx slots. If you need help, you can bring to my house in Tampa and I can set it up for you. I run that setup in my Freya as well as my EVO.

My GV1 is turned on by my idle up switch.

Normal mode: GV1 off
Idle up1 and 2: GV1 on.
Hold: GV1 off.

I fly a 9ZWCII so I have Gyro gain control from the menu system. My rx is a 149DP. My extra slot is used for a GEM 2000.

If an extra slot is needed for a specific setup, you can Y the battery to any channel. Let me know if you would like assistance.

Evan Chapkis Tampa, Florida

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04-30-2004 10:41 PM  13 years agoPost 20
snookfishnjoe

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Thanks Evan I might have to take you up on that deal.
What i am having trouble doing is getting the gv 1 setup to stay on(when at low stick)when it is in idle up 1 & 2. I have the speed setting set with the idle up switch but when i go to low stick on idle up 1&2 the gyro will show off.

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