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04-29-2004 08:35 PM  13 years agoPost 1
HeliNub

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I was all for buying into a EP 10, I've started to buy up the electronics as I see them come up for sale but asked a couple people who are buying logos why they don't buy a quick instead. I was suprised to hear from two of them that they felt the Quick kit was 'slapdash' and seemed to be kit-bashed from several of their other glow kits. Parts were larger/heaver then they needed to be (thats ok), the quality of the CNC job was low, parts tended to be missing from the kit, things didn't fit terribly well, the instructions are trash and don't keep up with the revisions they make... So now I'm back to not knowing if I want a Quick or a Logo, I wanted a quick because its my first large heli (after the corona) and don't want to shell out the $$$$ every time a Logo crashes. Granted these guys are likely Logo fanboys but still, there must be some merit to what they're saying. Any similar experience?

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04-29-2004 10:36 PM  13 years agoPost 2
Helifool

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From what I hear, the quick parts are supposed to fit together pretty well. The only parts that are really taken from there glow models are the mechanical parts like the rotorhead parts. A glow heli does not need to have beefier rotorhead parts than an electric. Its the other components for example the chassis which need to be beefier on a glow heli to withstand the vibration abuse.

However, there are parts on the heli that were built to heavily like the bearing blocks and motor mount. If you get a logo and then upgrade the mechanics to metal you are going to increase the weight of it.

I think that the quick sweet 16 would be a superb machine because it's it has a bigger rotor and the disc loading would be less. THe swash is also kinda beefy for nothing.

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04-30-2004 05:08 AM  13 years agoPost 3
w7ro

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Quick E-Helis

Hi,

Can't speak for the E 10, but I have owned a Logo 10 for over a year now, and it is a great little heli. My only complaint, is that parts are very expensive, and sometimes hard to get. I have been waiting for some parts from Aero Model(The new US distributor) for a couple weeks now.
The kit has a good manual with lots of pictures, and went together well.

I just finished building a Quick Sweet 16, and she made her maiden flight today with absolutely no problems. Very stable, even in windy conditions(which I had today). It handled better than my Raptor 30 in the same type conditions. I haven't weighed it, but it is as heavy as my Raptor nitro, if not heavier. It has a very solid feel.

As for building, (and I assume that the E-10 is about the same). This is not a kit for the first time helicopter builder. If you haven't built and setup a CCPM Helicopter before, you will probably need some help.

This kit does not come with an assembly manual. It comes with 13 pages of pictures of the various assemblies, and the parts lists for those assemblies. You can download the same pages from Quick's Web site.

There are no instructions for CCPM Radio or onboard electronics setup. The parts are first class, and all fit perfectly. The end result was buttery smooth, slop free mechanics. The CNC parts in my kit were all perfect, and the anodized parts were flawless. Same for the carbon parts, first class. I also experienced a missing part, but called them, and the part was here three days later, free of charge, and no questions asked.

I ran into a couple of problems(self induced), and had to call Quick a couple of times for help, and the tech's there were very friendly, and extremely helpful. Great guys to deal with. I ordered some extra parts, and they were all in stock, and arrived a couple of days after the order was placed. I have seen a lot of comments on the forums bashing Irwin(the owner), but I have talked with him three times, and he has helped and treated me great.

Overall, this has been a very good experience for me. I had fun building it, and learned a lot in the process. Would I buy another Sweet 16 rather than another Logo? Yes, in a heartbeat, and that is not taking anything away from Mikado. I am just very, very happy with my Sweet 16 thus far, and the service I have received from Irwin and his crew. It is a beautiful machine and I see one of the new 50 or 60 electrics that they will probably be coming out with in my future. Lots of bang for the buck.

That's just my opinion for what it's worth.

Hope this gives you a little insight, and good luck with your purchase(whatever that might be).

Cheers,

Craig Stewart

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05-01-2004 05:01 PM  13 years agoPost 4
Helifool

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I dont feel that CCPM setup instructions needs to be included in the helicopters instructions but it it would be nice. These setup instructions should be in your radio manual.

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05-02-2004 06:31 PM  13 years agoPost 5
KG_26WARPIG

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I built my Ep10 with NO problems everything fit fine. There was some parts that were wrong, but I just called Jon and had them sent, no questions asked.

BTW this is my first heli that I have built completely. The instructions are a little unrevised but common sense can get you through. I prefit most every thing before final assembly. Can wait to get in the air.

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05-03-2004 09:25 PM  13 years agoPost 6
shaley

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I have just completed the build of my ep-10 and overall i am happy. encountered a few problems but nothing major.

Here are some of the issues i have had

1. At the extreme, the tail pitch arm will bind/collide with the end of the tail tube. Not an extreme problem, can be fixed with spacers or radio setup. You can get sufficient pitch from the tail before it is at max throw. Just need to be aware of it

2. If you purchase AVEOX motor, motor mount screws are not long enough. I would be ok with this if i had purchased the motor separately from the heli, but both items were purchased from Quick. Why can't they throw the correct size bolts in the kit. I called and they said that the bolts were not metric and recommended drilling out the motor mount, forcing a metric bolt in the motor or head to the hardware store. Come on guys, spend $2 and include the correct size bolts in the kit. Inexpensive way to make the build process easier.

3. many problems with linkage rods/ball links. I had problems where the ball links were very sloppy and/or link sizes were not included in the kit. The included links that are supposed to be used on the bell/hiller to blade grip do not provide enough clearance during normal cyclic/pitch operation. I had to shave down the side of the link. I used raptor rods/ball links on most of the other connections.

4. They claim, "why buy plastic and upgrade when you can start with metal". i believe some of the machined parts could have been done better. The blade grip is 2 pieces bolted together by 2 3mm bolts. Would be cleaner as 1 piece.

5. Build at your own risk, manual is terrible when compared to some of the other heli brands. however, if you enjoy building as much as flying, the exploded views and included docs will get you through it. If you need a building for dummies instruction guide, stay away.


On the plus side

1. Very smooth, great for flying in the park, practicing orientation. No need for a high powered nitro (which i do own) for learning nose in, backwards, inverted, inverted backwards, etc.

2. LIPOS are awesome.

3. I have great experience with Quick support team. They are in my neck of the woods and shipments arrive next day.

4. she's a great looking machine. Had the canopy painted with decals (like i need more weight on this ship). The blue aluminum is nice eye candy. Club members can't stop staring

5. . Not sure on logo pricing, but fully loaded with Lipos, brushless motor, etc , etc This is a $1,500 investment. Haven't crashed yet but thankful the parts will be cheaper than if i had a logo.

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05-03-2004 10:01 PM  13 years agoPost 7
LocalGuy65

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I am in the middle of building mine, and The Guys as QuickHeli reccomended Hitec 225's CAn y ou take some close ups of your rotor head so I can see how you hooked everything up.

Thanks,
Eric

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05-03-2004 10:07 PM  13 years agoPost 8
HeliNub

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Use some DS5245's in place of the 225's, I got bought 3 NIB DS5245's from the classifieds for $35 each shipped which is only slightly more then 3 225's at $30 plus shipping new

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05-03-2004 10:46 PM  13 years agoPost 9
LocalGuy65

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The 225's seem a little too deep @ .92" They hit the main shaft. Did you have to make a spacer? I noticed that the 5245's are also .92".


Oh btw my 225's were $23.99 +Shipping From Servo City.

Eric

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05-04-2004 12:07 AM  13 years agoPost 10
HeliNub

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I haven't bought the Heli yet, just most of the electronics. The people who have used DS5245's have said they needed a riser, you're right, any other servo ideas, JR811's? And I was thinking about probably putting everything into a Sweet 16, anybody try the 5245s/225s on that yet, same space problem?

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05-04-2004 12:19 AM  13 years agoPost 11
LocalGuy65

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Is this riser something you can buy, or Do I need to fabricate it?

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05-05-2004 01:03 AM  13 years agoPost 12
HeliNub

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People were just making the shims. Looks like I'm going to get a Sweet 16 as the price difference is only $50 and the price-per-pack difference is about $50 (12cell vs 20 cell). But I'm going to hold out a little while longer until I can do patterns with my corona and they get some better manuals so that every person who builds one isn't saying:

"This is a kit to be built only by experienced heli builders, the instructions gloss over many things you would only know from having built helis before. And gee I'm missing several parts."

I hope Quick is listening...

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05-12-2004 04:47 PM  13 years agoPost 13
shaley

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montclair, NJ

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JR 3121s fit with no mod required into the Quick EP 10.

They also work extremely well. I love flying this bird. Before i go to work i take it to the local park. very calm in the AM. very quiet machine. I get 20mins with 1 4s4p pack, (2 10 min flights) using the 11 tooth pinion and aveox motor. Flys real nice. I am going to upgrade the paddles though. Need to be more crisp with flips and rolls.

I don't even get to wind the pack down, - i'd be late for work. I used to have a stock JR voyager - could only get 5 quality mins using the NIMH packs. very disappointing

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