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04-29-2004 02:31 AM  13 years agoPost 1
Sceadu Flyer

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Allright, here is the deal, I would like to put together a scale heli. I currently have a Sceadu 30 and I am considering buying either a Raven CCPM or a Hawk. What would all you guys recommend?? I kinda figured that the Sceadu would be useless as scale mechs, as it is rather under powered as it is. What do you guys recommend, I would like to do this as economically as possible and end up with one scale heli and one for aerobatics---eventually 3D.

Thanks!

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05-01-2004 01:28 AM  13 years agoPost 2
Copter Doctor

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for scale

the sceadu with a 32 should stil;l fly a fuse if you dont get carried away like i do with all the scale detailing. then you'd wanna stick a 50 in there. if economy is what you want, then do the hawk sport and put an o.s 46 in it. it will be a cheap powerhouse for scale. you do have to get the mount and the 14 tooth pinion gear and maybe the metal sideframes(depending on the fuse) but that should be all you need to get the scale ball rolling.

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05-01-2004 02:56 AM  13 years agoPost 3
Doc Dyer

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with the Raven. you can remove everything in front of the motor, and have room for a scale interior.

with the Hawk the servo tray will go up to the front windows.

Bradley

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05-01-2004 01:59 PM  13 years agoPost 4
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Ok, so using a Raven, the fact that it is a CCPM heli will not interfere with the fit of the scale fuselage? That is my major concern with using a Raven.

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05-01-2004 02:09 PM  13 years agoPost 5
Copter Doctor

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fuse fit

i was concerned about that. it depends on which fuse i guess. see, right in that area, most fuses tend to be narrow and the servos my be rubbing the sides. what i do if i want to have a cockpit, is relocate the servos to the rear or side of the fuse. i have done this many times using different mechs. century's r22 uses the std raven servo setup but there is plenty of room for that. i remember you said you're trying to keep cost down and also if it is your first attempt, you might consider not worrying about a cockpit til the next project. to keep things simple and economical. i will try to dig up some pics of some servo rearranging and post.

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05-01-2004 02:11 PM  13 years agoPost 6
Doc Dyer

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dont know about any scale fuse except the airwolf Funkey 30 it fits you have to watch the width at the top because of the servos

Bradley

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05-01-2004 02:16 PM  13 years agoPost 7
Copter Doctor

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an idea

here is a pic of the mods i did to a nexus for the cobra i have. you can pretty much put the servos anywhere as long as it alows free and clear movement of the pushrods and they are properly secured. maybe this will give you some ideas. i am currently doing the same to a hawk sport for my 60 size jet ranger fuse. i will post pics of that when i get the chance

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05-01-2004 09:30 PM  13 years agoPost 8
Sceadu Flyer

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WOW! that is one heck of a modification! I am not concerned with making a cockpit.....I just want to make something that looks kinda cool. So, right now, from the info you guys have gratiously provided me with, I am leaning towards the Hawk for the scale mechs. The Hawk seems like the easiest adaptation, with a set of SE side frames. Which fuselage would you recommend? I would really like to do either a Bell 222 or a Hughes 500. But being this is my first scale heli, I would like to attempt to keep it simple so I am more open to suggestion.

Thanks Again!!

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05-01-2004 10:36 PM  13 years agoPost 9
Copter Doctor

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which fuse

well, the hawk is a tight fit in the jet ranger, actually, it may not even fit. you'd be better off with the longranger. the 222 is nice but many folks have a time hooking up the retracts. to keep things cheap and easy(the way i like my women ) go with the longranger. the 30 size one works well but the 46 size has more room. you may have to lengthen the boom though. it will still be fine with a 32/39.

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05-02-2004 01:03 AM  13 years agoPost 10
Pipeous

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05-03-2004 05:19 PM  13 years agoPost 11
Bell_Pilot

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Hawk in a fuse

Sceadu Flyer,

I did my first scale fuse last fall with a lot of great info from people on this site. Just me talkin' here, but the Hawk is an excellent choice for a first scale bird. Easy to work with and low cost.

I have a bunch of pics of my build up in my gallery you can check out if you want. The Bell looks great with the retracts and is a good quality fuse for a decent price.

Cheers,

Kent

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05-04-2004 01:29 AM  13 years agoPost 12
Sceadu Flyer

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Hey Kent,

Thanks! I really like the looks of the Bell 222, and I think that is what I am going to go with. I know it is not the easiest project for a first one, but it is the one that I would like to have, so I will just take my time and do it right! Absolutely going to use Hawk Mechs!!

Later,
Sceadu Flyer

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05-04-2004 06:42 AM  13 years agoPost 13
flipped2left

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Ahh don't forget that some fuses require either the scale muffler or something that will sqeeze in without hitting the fuse! ken

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05-04-2004 06:42 AM  13 years agoPost 14
flipped2left

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i meant squeeze my bad! ken

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05-05-2004 06:11 AM  13 years agoPost 15
yzchopper

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My first scale was the Century airwolf (30 size). I used the Hirobo Shuttle Plus mechanics, OS32 with scale muffler. The mechanics fit really good and the muffler was not an issue at all. I used the Shuttle Plus mechanics b/c they fit every scale fuse that Century has for the 30 size. I am currently working on the 500E from Century. I have a couple pics of my airwolf flying in my gallery if you want to see how mine turned out. Not very good shots for detail though. Good luck and just take your time.

Steve

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