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04-28-2004 06:43 PM  13 years agoPost 1
Martin

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I recently purchased a Robbe Eolo from Nick T off e-Bay. After a little fettle and some bits its now up and flying great. Its as steady as a rock and a delight to fly. 8 minutes nose in the other evening after only having the bottle to do it on my Hummingbird. Damn this British weather, whats it like in California?

Mega 16/15/3.
CSM 560.
Quick Swash/Head Block/Tail Drive.
Heliup mixers/boom supports/tail box/Gyro tray.
JR 770S Receiver.
Boom bearing upgrade.
CC 45 ESC.
CF 380 BBT Blades.
JR 388S Tx.

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04-28-2004 07:25 PM  13 years agoPost 2
r1gga

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Hi Martin,
I am in the same situation you were, owning a hummingbird v2, but I have bigger aspirations. I am interested in getting something 3D capable and would prefer to avoid the hassle of liquid feuls, i.e. stay electric. I was considering either the HB CP or Protech Zoom 400, however after an extensive chat with the guy at electric rotor have been advised to go bigger so that I can fly on more than just the calmest of days.
How are you finding the Eolo? Would you recommend electric and this heli in particular? What swayed you towards buying it?

r1gga

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04-28-2004 07:39 PM  13 years agoPost 3
Martin

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I also have a i/c Raptor 30 and enjoy that but I wanted to try a bigger electric than the hummingbird. I bought the Eolo secondhand as it was at a reasonable price with the upgrades I would have fitted anyway. The quality of the kit also helped. I am happy up to now although I have only had it flying a day or two and still doing a little setting up. Its far quieter then the raptor so the odd hop in the back garden doesn`t upset the neighbours. It has been a gusty afternoon which upset the Eolo a little but on a less windy day I recon it will be great. I flew it indoors last night and it was rock steady.

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04-28-2004 07:50 PM  13 years agoPost 4
Si_B

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Glad to hear someone else enjoying their Eolo........far too many posts with complaints. There is a 7pm noise limit on the field I fly on, but no problems with the Eolo.........flew until it was dark just sitting in the back of the car. Only getting 5 mins flight time but hoping to improve that with an upgrade to Lipo's.

Regarding the Eolo vs Zoom 400, I'm not sure that a stock Eolo would be much better in a breeze unless you are going down the glass blades and high head speed route. I saw a zoom flying at the field for the first time last weekend and it was absolutely rock solid even though it was not flat clam. I'm waiting for my zoom to arrive, but it will be to compliment my Eolo and not replace it. I've been flying my Eolo for the past couple of months and think it's brilliant, but I'm not sure I'd want to crash it trying 3D, where as I'm definitely going to give the zoom a thrashing............it just looks like it would react better if it came into contact with the floor

They are both great machines.........but the Zoom is much cheaper to upgrade to brushless/Lipo's to get the flight duration.

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04-28-2004 10:41 PM  13 years agoPost 5
Helifool

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I would recommend the eolo over the zoom. The helis are in a different class. Eolo will fly in wind much better than a zoom. I feel that the zoom has not been out long enough for people to discover the problems with it just like what happened with the eolo over the year. Eolo will have much better 3d capabiltiy. I feel the eolo is already at the limit of small size and anything smaller is not much fun to fly from a distance.

I fly my eolo in my garden and I love it. I just flew today with 32 mins of flight time. I love it.

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04-29-2004 02:23 PM  13 years agoPost 6
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I just got a zoom , Have not flown it yet but at first glance it is much lower quality..
I'm not sure it is fair to compair both because the zoom is considered a micro, and it is much smaller than the Eolo ...I think a fair comparison for the zoom is to compair it to a hornet 2....the Eolo is much more like a shunken 30 sized heli with all the features of a big heli, ...the eolo sure handles and flys like a 30...I'd be surprized if the zoom has the same feel...I'll let you know..

hey what do you guys recommend for a hottest motor/esc/battery combo for the zoom.... you know me I whant it 3d the snot out of it so I want hottest setup possible..I want to see it the zoom is worth carrying at rchover....hey guys check out my new web page just got it up and running...let me know what you think...still some things to fix ..it's a work in progress


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Jeremy

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04-29-2004 02:48 PM  13 years agoPost 7
Helifool

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Im actually considering getting a Zoom but im afraid that i wont be satisifed with it because Im already pretty happy with my eolo.

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04-29-2004 02:59 PM  13 years agoPost 8
HeliDezz

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I found theses on a website take a look

Stock Eolo R22
http://i.b5z.net/i/u/1136925/i/stevensVideo.wmv

I thing i would stick with a Eolo then a zoom

Zoom 400Zoom

HeliDezz

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04-29-2004 03:11 PM  13 years agoPost 9
r1gga

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So confused! I can get a new r22 Eolo with all elctronics for £350 (is that good?), or I can get the Zoom with all electronics for £270 (This is definately good). Somebody help me to decide, I only have a week or so to decide.

I have heard that the zoom can handle pretty strong winds and the guys from EZfly reckon its good in Swedish weather so should be good in the UK. How does the Eolo fair in the wind?

I am going to buy Helicopter World and read the Eolo Pro review if that will shed some light on things.

r1gga

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04-29-2004 03:54 PM  13 years agoPost 10
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r1gga,
the Eolo is almost 2x the size of the Zoom ....if you want a micro look at a hornet 2 and compare that to the price of the Zoom...

ask yourself what you want and where you want to fly it ?are you flying indoors ? go Zoom ..... are you flying outside ? seriously consider the bigger Eolo.
the Eolo is bigger and easier to see and more visable at a distance and I have not flown Zoom yet , but It is a bit smaller and lighter....I 'm sure the zoom is stable, But I bet the bigger, heaver Eolo is even better in windy conditions.....if it's a money thing, go smaller , if it's a flyability issue for maxium stability in windy conditions go Eolo...


micro or bigger is the question to ponder....
these 2 helis are not apples and apples

my 2 cents

Jeremy

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04-29-2004 05:38 PM  13 years agoPost 11
r1gga

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I already have a micro Hummingbird fixed pitch and I am looking for an electric with collective pitch that will last me a long time and fly almost every day.

I am pretty set on the Eolo now as I just rang the Hobby shop that had quoted me £270 on the zoom and they said Protech are being slow and difficult so they are no longer stocking them. This would make spares near impossible

I am going to go for the Eolo, will order it in a week or so. I am exited, will be getting stock r22 Eolo with all primitive electrics for £350! Any recommended bits and piececs or should the stock setup with basic kit keep me entertained for a while? I dont like the canopy but I can change that when I get good enough for people to watch me!

Comments?

r1gga

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04-29-2004 06:08 PM  13 years agoPost 12
Helifool

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Good choice,

I would recommend doing the self 3rd bearing mod. pretty simple to do and works great.

Also the tail bearing upgrade is a good idea. I know its pricey but i feel those are basically the most important upgrades. Then you dont have to worry about bushings wearing out. I think thats the most essential upgrade and mod.

I got all the quickUK upgrades except for the blade grips which are coming. I got the tail bearings, and did the 3rd bearing mod.

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04-29-2004 07:24 PM  13 years agoPost 13
r1gga

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is the field force super 7 a good radio to use with the eolo? which are recommended and wont break the bank?

r1gga

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04-29-2004 08:40 PM  13 years agoPost 14
Helifool

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Well, I use a futaba 9C and I love it. Theres the new 7C which looks pretty good.

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04-29-2004 08:49 PM  13 years agoPost 15
Si_B

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Don't worry too much about upgrading your Eolo. If it is stock and brand new, you will get loads of fun out of it before anythig wears too drastically. The upgrades mentioned are worth while, but you don't need them to get a great little heli in the air. I Don't think you will suffer from excessive wear in stock trim.........just fly it !!!. Strange about the canopy....I quite like it (better once it's painted !!).

If you already have a FF7 radio, it should be more than good enough to use with your Eolo.

Regarding the motor for the zoom, there is a new Hacker motor which has been developed for it. I can not remember the exact details, but will let you know when mine arrives on Saturday.

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04-29-2004 10:17 PM  13 years agoPost 16
Helifool

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Well, I dont recommend that you dont do the 3rd bearing mod. It costed me 7 bucks for a boca bearing and about 10 mins of work. It all depends on your setup but I went through 5 stripped gears without the 3rd bearing. Most lipoly setups will be stripping your gears when you start doing anything besides hovering.

Im setup with a twist, jazz, and 3s4p lipoly.

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04-29-2004 10:30 PM  13 years agoPost 17
jerrysimon

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r1gga

I agree if you are flying it with stock motor etc you won't need any upgrades to start off with.

Feel free to take a look at my Eolo web site for further info.

Regards

Jerry

My Eolo Web Pages : [url]http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jerrysimon/eolo/index.htm[/url]

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04-29-2004 10:53 PM  13 years agoPost 18
Martin

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r1gga

By the sounds of what you want from your heli the Eolo is the one for you. Quick and Heliup do mods as fitted to mine, I have no idea how they compare to origional bits as I bought secondhand but they do look great. Let us know how you go on with the Eolo when you get going. If I can help in any way E-mail me. I`m new to the Eolo myself but learning fast. The guys at Revolution Helicopters in Altrincham have been the greatest of help to me and pointed me in the right direction with a few minor problems. Enjoy!

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04-29-2004 11:33 PM  13 years agoPost 19
Helifool

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The upgrades that I actually noticed a real difference was the the quickuk swash and the head block. They both really tightened up the controls. The head block gives this nice solid feeling and smooths things out a bit.

The other ugrades I baught were more for reliabitly or were actually nessesary.

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04-29-2004 11:45 PM  13 years agoPost 20
r1gga

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Will do.

ATM I'm shopping about for the best deal on all the bits. The best so far is getting Eolo and servos from rchover.com (in the US) and the rest of the elctronics from electricrotors in Hertsfordshire UK (electricrotors.com). I can get the Eolo Pro from rcHover pretty cheap and would start off with a brushed motor and cheap esc, but is it worth the extra £50 or shall I just stick with the standard Eolo and upgrade it as necessary?

Any suggestions on the cheapest sources for all the bits would be appreciated!

r1gga

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