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04-27-2004 06:48 PM  13 years agoPost 1
Dr Martin

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Hi Everyone,
Just purchased a Electric starter for my benzin, only trouble is,,,,,,,,,,,how do you wire it all up???????. Anybody got a diagram how to do this??The pair of micro switches on the plastic cam don't look like they should be taking any currant.


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04-27-2004 08:09 PM  13 years agoPost 2
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04-28-2004 12:00 AM  13 years agoPost 3
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THANKS Goraptor

Had a look at that site but it shows nothing on the wireing.


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04-28-2004 02:17 AM  13 years agoPost 4
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Dude ...

I ran into similar problem . this is what I understand. Those micro switch are only for controlling signal for throttle servo or somthing else. So I decided not to use that whole case and switch setup.

You should have 2 big Black switches too Use one of them and attach a servo to operate that switch I have setup the trainer switch to operate . So that servo arm will push that switch which will engage or disengage the +ve power supply to starter. I will for shoot some picture tomorrow night if you leave me yr email in PM .

Best of luck

BTW the starter in link above is older version

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04-28-2004 02:20 AM  13 years agoPost 5
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Why not just use an ESC from a plane/car?

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04-28-2004 02:51 AM  13 years agoPost 6
aashu

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I guess

I guess that could be an option and a good quality esc may not cost more than 50 bucks

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04-28-2004 03:16 AM  13 years agoPost 7
Brett

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I think that there are two different versions. I don't have microswitches with mine and some third party controller was suggested, I will try to find the drawings and post them.

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04-28-2004 03:26 AM  13 years agoPost 8
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If you were daring you could use the BEC of the ESC and save the cash on a flight pack.

An 8 cell pack (9.6v) would thus be regulated down to 5 volts. You would just have to be carefull of the batteries dumping quickly.

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04-28-2004 03:28 AM  13 years agoPost 9
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A simple on/off switch is what you're looking for...

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...p?&I=LXN646&P=7

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04-28-2004 05:23 AM  13 years agoPost 10
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I would avoid anything with a brake circuit. Or at least anything that you cannot dissable the braking circuit.

That would be a good way to chew up the gears.

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04-28-2004 02:27 PM  13 years agoPost 11
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The switch at tower is rated

The switch above is rated only 10 amp and 30A Peak. In a condition when engine is flooded that switch may burn out . I would try posting some pictures tonight if possible. My version of starter came with 2 Large switches, a Servo, a Fan , Whole starter mechanism and a motor with wires (plus hardware for old fan removal )

I didn't like the IDEA of this BEC ESC thing .. they are kinda always live and slowly draining yr battery .. I might be wrong though

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04-28-2004 04:21 PM  13 years agoPost 12
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What is that switch made for can it handle the current

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04-28-2004 04:21 PM  13 years agoPost 13
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Perhaps the Vario Distribor can post an explination.

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04-28-2004 04:28 PM  13 years agoPost 14
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The switch above is rated only 10 amp and 30A Peak.
FYI. Vario says the draw on the starter motor is 5-7A.

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04-28-2004 05:05 PM  13 years agoPost 15
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Here is a link to the motor:

http://www.hobby-lobby.com/speed480.htm

@ about 20 amps the brushes will fry.

Since it has such a large gear reduction, even under load the current should not be bad.

Just wire a 15 amp slow blow fuse in it and enjoy.

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04-28-2004 06:18 PM  13 years agoPost 16
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I hate

Personally I really hate the idea of using relay in this application
I would rather operate a Spring loaded switch with a servo . Adding a Fuse is a good Idea

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04-28-2004 06:43 PM  13 years agoPost 17
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They are out of stock but here is what I was looking at to start mine:

http://www.hobby-lobby.com/unusual.htm

I have the 5 amp for lights. I was looking @ the 20 amp for the starter.

Can you tell I had an electric plank phase?

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04-28-2004 08:34 PM  13 years agoPost 18
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rcadd1ct

I am using that 20A switch for Lighting in my scaler . Doesn't look that Trust Worthy for a Starter though . I am operating the lights Via CH9 (shared) which uses this switch and Ch8 With the Servo Switch Setup operated via Trainer switch . Works like a charm .

I will try posting Pictures tonight. However I don't know how to post them in a Thread. would someone else be able to Post them for me If I email them.

Thanks

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04-28-2004 10:53 PM  13 years agoPost 19
Dr Martin

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Thanks very much guys all info is gratfully received. Looking more closely at the poor attempt by Vario for instructions, it shows one of these small cam opperated micro switches being used as the on/off in the positive lead and one of the larger micro's as a safety......... opperating off the throttle servo's control arm , this is used in the negative lead.
But like aashu said will these small micro switches handle 5-8 amps through them.

Brett
If you have those drawings, please post them. your set up might be the way to go. I don't want to spend on expensive gagetry if i can help it.

Dr Martin

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04-29-2004 01:35 AM  13 years agoPost 20
Brett

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That sound like a hookie way of doing it. Most use an electronic control circuit with a safety switch. I wonder if those can be adapted to work with this setup

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