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04-27-2004 01:15 AM  13 years agoPost 1
Bubzilla420

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I am convinced it was the wind after today.. I am curious to How much,if any,expo anyone is useing.
I have a 6102 on the Cal 30.
I started with nothing .. flew great with no wind.. flew in the wind and got very touchy.. tough to hover.
checked everything.. added 40% Expo from 0%..
Still very touchy... moved it to 60% Expo got a little better but still about **** me britches.
Came home and my Bro Hoverhead pointed out in the book, Pg. 16 section 17, a-2.
"(if the experienced flyer fly with this mode, adjust Aileron and Elevator EXP to sensitive and 70% D/R)"
Could someone further explain....?
I am convinced that it is the wind.
Thanks,
Brett

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04-27-2004 01:19 AM  13 years agoPost 2
d-n-jensen

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What is your setup? are you using ccpm or std mix? What servo's are you using? what was the wind speed and was it gusty or steady? what is your head speed?

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04-27-2004 07:01 PM  13 years agoPost 3
Eury

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On my 6102 and Cal 30, I'm using 20% expo and 90% dual Rates on Ail and Elev, and I have them set to the front right switch on the radio. I very rarely even flip the switch, basically only when I am trying to keep it PERFECTLY still hovering. I think a lot of your problem is the wind. Much above 10-12mph and I have a tough time keeping it in one place, and gusts make it MUCH worse. It's extremely stable when it's calm, but the wind makes it bounce around more, and then you in turn have to compensate more to keep it still, so you probably end up over controlling the heli.

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04-28-2004 02:46 AM  13 years agoPost 4
Bubzilla420

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d-n-jensen

ccpm
JR537
gusty... 20-30mph
head speed... dont know.. but she is spinning quick

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04-28-2004 02:48 AM  13 years agoPost 5
Bubzilla420

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eurylokhos

very good to hear... I am sure it was the wind... I have just heard that helis dont feel the wind.. BULLS*%T
I have hovered her rock solid on calm days also
I am going to play with the expo.. I have been useing none... figured I would train my thumbs to do the job.
Thanks for the reply,
Brett

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04-28-2004 01:03 PM  13 years agoPost 6
Eury

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No problem. Whoever told you that helis don't notice the wind was on something. They definitely don't react to the wind nearly as much as a fixed wing, but they do get bounced around, especially in a hover. They don't seem to get bounced around nearly as much in forward flight, but seeing as every flight begins and ends with a hover, I'm not in the habit of taking the Caliber out when it's much over 12, maybe 15mph. I just figure that a good day will come, and it's not worth the possibility of damage to an expensive heli. Where I have the most trouble in winds is in altitude control in a hover, I always seem to have the good luck of a big gust coming or dying away just as it's inches above the ground, making me have to be VERY quick on Collective, or it lands harder than I'd like, or it's back in the air. Other than that, a high head speed helps, but there's not a whole lot you can do about the wind, short of moving to a bigger machien like a 60 or a 90.

In all, I think you'll enjoy your Caliber. I love mine, flys great, the only real mod I've done is put the Mavrick landing gear on it to make it less tipsy on the ground, plus it looks a lot better. Still haven't crashed it, I'm hoping I got that out of my system back when I was flying XCell 60s, the expense was enough for me to leave helis for 5 years.

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04-28-2004 03:50 PM  13 years agoPost 7
Bubzilla420

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eurylokhos

bummer on the xcell... glad to hear your back in the game. I too enjoy the Caliber.. just new to the windy day flying.
How do you like the Mavs on her.. I have a set of TT's for mine... once I get autos down I will throw them on. The stock woodies seem to be fine for now.. and they always say you cant miss something you have never had.. so I will wait till I get the cracking em up out of my system.
Blue skys and "Calm" winds,
Brett

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04-28-2004 09:41 PM  13 years agoPost 8
Eury

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Yeah, it was my XL 60 custom, went in inverted during FFF, the total I came up with was about $900. That's the scary thing about putting a glow heli in, if that engine keeps running, it tears itself apart. Basically broke everything, about the only thing still usable was 2 of the servos. And this was back when HH gyros were new, and I had a new CSM 360 (I think) in it, everything gone. Sucked.

On the Cal, I like the Mav gear. It sits lower, and looks much better. The only complaint I have is that it bends easily, they'll literally bend in a semi firm landing. Luckily, they bend back easily. On the blades, I've got a set of Carbons, and a set of Mav woodies. I got the heli used with a gallon through it, and the carbons, and bought the woodies for $16 through heliproz, so I could have a cheap set on it for those initial getting to know you flights. I haven't taken them off, because they work just fine for what I've done so far, which is just hovering, and forward flight. When I get back into aerobatics, I'll throw the carbons on there, I'm sure it'll help with autos too. I've only brought it in from an auto once so far, and I'm not sold on the driven tail, there wasn't a whole lot of energy in there at the end. But again, the last thing I autoed was an XL 60, and that was years ago, so who knows. I'm going to wait until I am more comfortable before I start doing autos intentionally.

In all, I love the Heli. Just bought a case of CoolPower for it, now I just need the time to burn it!

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04-29-2004 12:54 AM  13 years agoPost 9
d-n-jensen

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A lot of beginners think there head speed is really fast when it is not. Have an experienced heli person listen to yours and help you get a good 1800+ head speed. Winds do affect heli's a lot and you will need to learn how to land in fast forward flight with winds in the 25+ mph range.

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05-01-2004 06:43 AM  13 years agoPost 10
Bubzilla420

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ok.. will do ,
Thanks for the help,
Brett

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