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04-26-2004 09:48 PM  13 years agoPost 1
psychopic

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Are you able to switch from HH (head and hold) to non HH via the handset ? I can adjust the sensitivity but can’t figure out how to switch in an out of HH mode. Is this possible or am I asking too much from the humble RD6000?

Any help would be great

Thanks

PP

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04-26-2004 11:28 PM  13 years agoPost 2
Windspiel

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You can find your answer here
easy setup and tune I used it on my RD8000
http://www.raptortechnique.com/gy401-rd6000.htm

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04-27-2004 02:55 AM  13 years agoPost 3
AirWolfRC

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On the RD6000, you're not going to switch in and out of HH independent of flight mode switching.

You can, however, set the gyro mode for each flight mode.

Wolfgang

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04-27-2004 03:53 AM  13 years agoPost 4
Billy Zimmerman

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ditto to AirWolfRC

yep you have to program it for each flight mode works great IMO. i love my RD6000 i wish i had the RD8000 too, oh yeah and stylus

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04-27-2004 04:43 PM  13 years agoPost 5
armageddon

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go to 'G' on your channel grid...
then click the down arrow...
you will see 100% ... push your gyro switch up...
change this number to -100

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WHAT SIGNATURE?

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04-27-2004 05:38 PM  13 years agoPost 6
AirWolfRC

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Hold your horses ther Armageddon,

Doing whay you say changes the gyro setting for mode 1 only. There are different settings for mode 2 and N.

Either way, what I said earlier still applies.

Wolfgang

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04-27-2004 07:10 PM  13 years agoPost 7
armageddon

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AirWolfRC - If it is the same as the RD8000 then what I am saying
is correct..

when he flicks the gyro stick up that will be for mode 2...

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WHAT SIGNATURE?

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04-27-2004 10:55 PM  13 years agoPost 8
AirWolfRC

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What you said will change the mode of the gyro, correct.

But only for the idle-up mode you are in at the moment.

And that operation is not something you do while flying.

He needs to set the desired gyro mode for each flight mode before flight and setting a positive value or a negative value is how he will set either HH mode or Rate mode.

Wolfgang

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04-28-2004 01:17 AM  13 years agoPost 9
2LTime

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Two ways:
1. In the gyro column in the nor/rev row, Swithing between normal and reverse changes between HH and rate mode. This would not be the way to do it if you want it done while you are flying.

2.Go to the "etc." column and one of the mixer rows. Set BOTH the master and slave for one of the mixers to the Gyro channel and mix to (-100%). What this does is the same as 1. above but you activate it by just flicking the respective mixer switch. What you are doing is mixing the gyro channel back on itself reversed.

The RD6000 has no Gyro switch. You can set the GAIN for each fight mode in the normal menu but you can not set the MODE for each flight mode. What you do is set the mode in the menu using the nor/rev function of the gyro channel. Now you are always in that mode and can switch in and out of it by using 2. above. You can also vary the amount of the mix as long as it is negative to control the gain. i.e set one gain in HH and another in normal mode.

Hope this helps

Jeff

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04-28-2004 01:29 AM  13 years agoPost 10
AirWolfRC

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Jeff, have you tried this kind of mixing?

I seem to recall that it would send out a signal that is "0" or center travel. That would do undesirable things to the gyro. You would need -200% mixing for what you are saying in "2" to work and the RD can't do that.

Besides, I use both mixers for cyclic to throttle mixing.

Wolfgang

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04-28-2004 01:57 AM  13 years agoPost 11
2LTime

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Wolfgang, I have not flown it this way. I am always in HH mode when I fly. I do have the mix setup and can tell it is going to normal mode when I hit the switch. This is how I set the tail up. Since I am always in HH mode, I hit the switch and the servo centers and doesn't lag to the side like it does in HH and I can set up the throws. I'm pretty sure it will work though, I'll have to try. I figure it this way. If you are in the gyro channel and set your gain to say 75% and it is in HH, If you than change just the gain to -75%, you now have 75% gain in Rate mode. By mixing 75% by -100% you get -75%.


I also just went and hit the switch and wiggled the Gyro. It compensated and centered just like it would if it was in Rate mode. If it was sending out a "0" signal the gyro would basically be off and not do a thing. ( this I know from experience, and yes it's not good)

Jeff

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04-28-2004 02:16 AM  13 years agoPost 12
AirWolfRC

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You should check that out first hand. Put a servo on the gyro sense channel to check the signal.

75% - 100% (of 75%) = 0%

Wolfgang

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04-28-2004 02:51 AM  13 years agoPost 13
2LTime

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Wolfgang, you are right. I hooked a servo up to the gain channel. Next I set the gain to 0% and marked the position of the servo. Than I turned the gain up to 75% and mixed it to itself by -100%. The servo went to the 0% postion.

I did find that the mixes can be decreased to -150%. This did move the servo halfway out on the other side of the 0% position. I would assume this would change the state of the gyro and give you half gain.

Still not sure why it is working on my heli.

Thanks Wolfgang, interesting stuff

Jeff

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04-28-2004 03:41 AM  13 years agoPost 14
AirWolfRC

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I went through this about 2 years ago.
That's when I decided to just do everything in HH mode.

Wolfgang

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