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Posted by volkul on 01-15-2003 04:58 PM:
Greetings folks.
Today I got the Shuttle parts that are slated for the inevitable video taped crash. However the machine I got is only half of a machine. So now I am in need of some spare parts if any one has any laying around?

The most important thing I need is a Parts breakdown on the Shuttle TS. I have no idea on what items are missing and I need to add.

Just a rough idea of the things needed to get this machine flight worthy.

Main Shaft
Feathering shaft
Flybar
Canopy
Horz fin
Tail boom support arms
Main shaft and start shaft Bearings
Starter adapter
All left side parts less frame
Left tail case
1 complete seesaw arm
complete washout assy
tail pitch slider assy.
Clutch

If anyone has any of this stuff laying in a box, or is willing to dig through the parts bins it would be greatly appreciated.

Of course all people that donate items will have an honorable mention in the end of the video.

For right now I have all the electronics to fill one machine but I could still use servos for machine #2

Original post here: http://www.runryder.com/showtopic.h...20&pagenumber=1

Ken B

Posted by chrtir on 01-15-2003 05:24 PM:
hey Ken I have a couple of 9001 servos i wouldn't mind letting you use remind me next time your in the ramstein area
Posted by volkul on 01-15-2003 05:28 PM:
Just give em to Jason for safe keeping. He's donating a reciever to the event.

Ken B

Posted by volkul on 01-15-2003 08:13 PM:
Anyone else feel like helping out in this little endevour? OK, I'm begging

Ken B

Posted by Obsessive on 01-15-2003 08:50 PM:
Sounds like someone hammered that Shuttle pretty badly. It's too bad this idea wasn't around 6 months ago....I finally got around to throwing away a box of Nexus parts.....there was a complete heli in there...somewhere.

Any folks out there with a recently crashed kit that they aren't going to rebuild? Join the party folks, instant fame on Ken's homepage, and you'll always be able to say:

"There's debris from my crashes strewn all over the world"
Posted by EdVp on 01-15-2003 09:26 PM:
Good thing you're out of the U.S.

I don't think the AMA would approve.
Posted by SolarX on 01-15-2003 10:19 PM:
I am curious to know how you intend to put the heli in. It would be cool if you could configure it for an inflight boomstrike to add to the excitment.

I picked a hell of a day to quit drinking

Avant EFX
Freya EVO

Posted by maddog7 on 01-15-2003 10:45 PM:
Volkul,
I've just read through this post and I think its a cool idea! however just a plain ol' crash of any sort just would not cut it.
I mean one does not have to look hard to find all manner of crashes including 2 helis mid air etc.

No matter how difficult, as a pioneer in this field you MUST make this good!!

Pirotechnics, explosives, whatever it takes!! you know you wanna do it!

Just one for the melting pot (pun intended) it might be kinda fun if you could cover the poor thing in summat flammable which ignites whilst in flight but does not knock out the controls (at least not initially) so you can fly this fireball around doing 3d for a bit , you would probably need to rig it for detonation for the sake of safety. BUT lets not get too bogged down in the myre of PC. This aint gonna be 100% safe by any means, but the real fun stuff rarely is.

Also film this at dusk, so any fireball is more visible, keep the video at good quality so DSL ers can get a really good look!!


Plastic explosives might be the safest way for some fun or one of my mates makes fantastic bombs out of fireworks (might be difficult to get past customs tho!! hehe)


Good luck with this
Maddog7
David
Posted by Obsessive on 01-15-2003 11:34 PM:
For those of you just joining us, this is Part 2. See the developing story in Part 1. The thread has moved here, as Part 1 got quite lengthy with ideas....

http://runryder.com/showtopic.htm?s...t=intentionally


Also see Ken's website page feature,

http://volkul.tripod.com/pages/crash/crash.htm
Posted by volkul on 01-16-2003 04:38 AM:
The idea of 2 machines coliding in mid air is what we are leaning toward. Very dramatic.... We are going to have multiple cameras to get it from several angles.

Unfortunatly, the idea of pyrotecnics just isn't going to happen. The main reason is that some of the donated electronics are basically on loan and the people want them back afterward. So I have to honor that.

Ken B

Posted by sal14m on 01-16-2003 04:47 AM:
Vokul???? Any chance of getting my Shuttle parts back??? LOL

Only joking mate, I want you to smash this thing to smitherines!!!! And may it R.I.P., with a proper burial afterwards !!!

Looking at your list above, i never realised it required so many other parts, WOW. sorry mate I did try.
You said you may have had another donation for a Shuttle, is that still going ahead???
.

[color=red]SAL[/color]

Posted by volkul on 01-16-2003 05:08 AM:
Sal,

First off, I am NOT complaining at all. This is a challenge for me to try to get all this project together. I am thrilled that you, MHTjef and Obsessive have been so kind in your donations. I've even had some cash donations. As I said "beggers can't be choosers." I just need visability on these posts so people see them and maybe some one else who hasn't seen the idea but would want to join in can help.

FWIW, I have an complete kit being donated to me from Cyberheli. That was going to be the second machine. Odds are it's now the primary machine I am considering for this little project ...

We'll get there!

Thanks again!

Ken B

Posted by Obsessive on 01-16-2003 02:28 PM:
Ken,

don't you mean Cxbxrxexi ???
Posted by Timbers on 01-16-2003 03:06 PM:
Why do people keep bringing up the AMA?

F&@# THE AMA my gosh.

Crash the sucker, I wanna see this...
Posted by BimmerM3 on 01-16-2003 03:19 PM:
I can't tell from your parts list if this is a top start or belt start Shuttle. If it's a belt start, I have all the parts (Cooling fan, clutch, clutch bell, starter pulley, belt). I also have a muffler and old-style rotor head and linkages.

I may also have some blades and a tired old Enya 35. It probably won't run for very long (bad bearings), but you're welcome to it if you think it'll work.

Blade 550X, T-Rex 450 Pro FBL

Posted by Obsessive on 01-16-2003 03:33 PM:
Timbers - I thought I was the only who felt that way......
Posted by sal14m on 01-16-2003 03:41 PM:
Bimmer M3 - it is a Shuttle TS

But judging by the amount of missing main transmission parts, i'm sure by adding the belt start mechanics, this could easily be transformed into belt starting heli????

.

[color=red]SAL[/color]

Posted by cmartin on 01-16-2003 03:54 PM:
I second timbers response
Posted by BimmerM3 on 01-16-2003 04:00 PM:
Sal,

I believe you are correct. How 'bout it, Ken? You want the stuff to make it a belt start?

Blade 550X, T-Rex 450 Pro FBL

Posted by volkul on 01-16-2003 04:22 PM:
Bimmer, I could use what ever you got! TS or Belt start I will try anything. I'll PM you with my address.

Sorry it took so long to get back to this ... had to work don't ya know.

As for the AMA... Well I'm not a member anyway But I am curious, does the AMA guide say anything about intentionally crashing any machine? Things that make you go Hmmm

Ken B

Posted by rcpilotsteve on 01-16-2003 04:40 PM:
The poor shuttles, I learned on one of these.
I have two of the old Canopy's! One is red the other is white. Both have windshields. The white one has a small crack at the lock location but it could certainly be used.
I might also have a short main mast or two, would make for a better tangled mess.
If you need them!!!!
Posted by volkul on 01-16-2003 04:49 PM:
WOW, That's a great offer! I can definatly use the canopy and main mast. Since I am not a shuttle expert what's the differences in the short mast and a long mast? Just wondering. If I'm correct it's so one can get more collective range out of it. In this case that's not a real issue anyway.

Send them to:
Ken Bryant
PSC 9 Box 1819
APO, AE 09123

BTW, that's a standard US mailing address. Just like mailing to New York. It's unique because I am a serviceman overseas. Please make sure it has a customs tag on it reflecting "toy Helicopter parts".

Thanks again!

Ken B

Posted by Galifrey on 01-16-2003 04:58 PM:
Volkul, you seen this thread?

http://runryder.com/showtopic.htm?t...9&topicid=33303

Don't Email me as I wont reply - PM Only (spam countermeasures)

Posted by volkul on 01-16-2003 05:38 PM:
Galifrey,

That looks like fun.

Ken

Ken B

Posted by Johnno on 01-17-2003 04:24 PM:
I have a TT 2 piece muffler...I will donate to the cause. I think it will fit on an OS32 ...if you need it its yours..no need to return it
Posted by Rotor on 01-17-2003 04:30 PM:
No...

My motto is this..Fly...Rebuild...Fly

Posted by volkul on 01-17-2003 04:35 PM:
Johnno,

Thanks but I am good to go on mufflers. Thanks for your offer!


Rotor,
NO to what?

Ken B

Posted by Obsessive on 01-19-2003 06:46 PM:
Volkul,

Noticed you've recently acquired the shuttle from Cxbxrxexi...

What do you need from those of us who are living vicariously through you on this crash spectacle?
Posted by volkul on 01-19-2003 06:53 PM:
Well, I really need to kinda take an assesment of things. I am in the process of buying 2 more shuttles. I am using the cash donations for the purchase. So when it's all said and done I might have enough chassis for 4 crashes. I'm sure I'll have enough for 3. One place I am hurting on is electronics. I need some servos and recievers. I have plenty of gyros thanks to you Obsessive and MHTJef.

Well there you have it...

Ken B

Posted by r60fan on 01-19-2003 07:58 PM:
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Posted by gforce on 01-19-2003 09:05 PM:
The Fusion get's my vote
I think that is a good idea r60fan.

And if you could have a way that when the two heli's connect, that one of them drops it's signal and picks up the other transmitter's signal, then one person could take controll (synthasized 9Z, hey doesn't Ken have one?) of it and fly the mirror image heli around for a time. Then of course the spectacular never been done or seen before, mind boggling crash of the mirror image heli at the end.

I think it is ammusing that you choose shuttles. Most of us have had them, and most of us want to see one get obliterated.

I have some stock Raptor 30 paddles I could contribute if you need them.
Posted by MaxC on 01-19-2003 09:05 PM:
Ken i think you should get some fireworks (larger type rockets especially) and try to shoot the heli down. It should involve pyro technics but not the kind that blow everything on the heli up (like you said wont happen because of the loaned parts)


Max
Posted by w.pasman on 01-20-2003 06:05 PM:
> If I'm correct it's so one can get more collective
> range out of it. In this case that's not a real issue anyway.

You could put in a nearly-broken jesus bolt and then launch the main gear by pulling full collective
Posted by volkul on 01-28-2003 04:31 AM:
Just thought I would pass along an update.

I have not recieved several of the promised items in this post as of yet.

The only people I have recieved items from is MHTjef, Sal, and Obsessive.

If anyone has sent anything else to be used in the project you might enquire with the local post office.

I did get a good deal on 2 Shuttle ZX's and bought those last week. In theroy they should be here this week. At this point I am still engine less for all the machines and am still in need of servos. If anyone has some Futaba 148 or 3001 servos they want to donate I could use them for the project. Yet I sit here with 3 machines somewhere in the mail and nothing to put anything in. Well just passing it all on.

Cheers

Ken B

Posted by r60fan on 01-28-2003 05:21 AM:
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Posted by donlynn on 01-28-2003 09:14 AM:
Gidday

You going loco ?

maizin aint it !!
Posted by r60fan on 01-29-2003 11:43 PM:
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Posted by BimmerM3 on 01-30-2003 03:46 PM:
Ken,

Sorry you haven't gotten the stuff I promised yet.

I am going to send you an engine and a couple of servos. I promise!

Blade 550X, T-Rex 450 Pro FBL

Posted by Victor Iliescu on 01-30-2003 05:30 PM:
I definetily say lets those shuttles burn!!! Seriously Soak everything in gas except electronics(put some metal for protection on things like receiver/servos) making sure the wires won't burn when it's lit on fire. Then fly the ball of fire around and do the locomotive crash thing. If you can't do the fire thing definetily get some fireworks and make up a trigger that blows it up when they hit(metal ball supported by plastic or something that will pop out and hit a metal cage etc..)
Posted by daggit on 01-31-2003 03:17 AM:
This is a cool project.... VOLKUL, you rock!!
Posted by spyder354 on 01-31-2003 03:55 AM:
I like Victor's idea of things burning, but i have a better idea. I once rigged a unit to launch bottle rockets off of a heli. I used a servo to touch wires to connect an old reciever pack to a glow plug. The plug was hot enough on 4.8v that if you put the fuse of the bottle rocket into it, when the servo moved and touched the wires it would light. It might take a couple tries, but if one heli had a little gas on it and another shot a bottle rocket at it, the chance of a flaming death spiral could be pretty good.
Posted by donlynn on 01-31-2003 05:22 AM:
Gidday
Use a 1/4 watt lo value resistor ~$0.01 each
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