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iyoy

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Bacolod City, Philippines

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OS 1.05 HZR

I understand this is a short shaft engine and more powerful than the previous 91 SZH. I am considering replacing the 91 in my Freya EX2 SWM. Will there be any modification required for the short shaft and gear ratio? Same question applies to the new Freya EVO SWM SSLII, I am considering purchasing a kit and using the OS 1.05 with it. Thanks!

iyoy

01-03-2017 02:22 AM
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PaulBowen

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Victoria, Australia.

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The short shaft OS-105HZ-R(S) is no longer available. It would require a Hirobo 0414-562 D3V2 flywheel. I personally believe the short shaft provides no actual advantage and the standard Freya flywheel or E3 unit would provide better cooling airflow.

The current 105's have a standard length crankshaft and fit directly in a Freya.

Hirobo fanatic!

01-03-2017 02:41 AM
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Dingo07

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Newport Coast, CA - USA

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01-03-2017 03:17 AM
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wjvail

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Meridian, Mississippi

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I bought a Gold addition 105. Who can't use a spare engine of this quality????

I'm thinking eBaying it. I mean really - who needs an engine like this sitting around in a box?

"Well, Nothing bad can happen now."

01-04-2017 03:50 PM
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Doublah

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Man, that thing is gorgeous!!! Miss nitro, especially the smell.

01-04-2017 04:36 PM
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tommytt1

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Mercerville, NJ, USA

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Seem like a crime to hide that engine in an airframe.

I made a mistake once, but I was wrong?

01-04-2017 04:41 PM
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iyoy

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Bacolod City, Philippines

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Dingo07

RC Japan's price is ¥53,700 if you purchase the power pipe separately. The Gold Edition including pipe at Super RC is ¥51,700 after subtracting 8% tax free off the retail price. Plus I can pick it up myself to save on shipping cost.

iyoy

01-04-2017 04:58 PM
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wjvail

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Meridian, Mississippi

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http://www.rcjapan.net/index.php?ma...oducts_id=20601
1 x [15% OFF] MAX-105HZ-R GOLD EDITION (OS-18759-S) ¥55,250
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Sub-Total: ¥55,250
Flat Rate (Best Way): ¥4,300
Payment Method Fees (3.5%): ¥2,084
Total: ¥61,634
For those that might be considering a new 105, I've posted a few notes on my buying experience. See above. 61,500 JYen shipped to Mississippi is about $530 USD for motor and pipe.

I understand that some may be upset at the suggestion of bypassing the US importer. My purpose is to encourage the growth of glow model helicopters. Nothing more. If you'd like to support the US importer the 105 is readily available - although the Gold Addition is showing discontinued. Look here to buy locally-> http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...p?&I=LXGJSG&P=7

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01-05-2017 01:12 PM
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kthane

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Pensacola

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Very difficult to buy something a distributor won't carry. Seems the destined future of this hobby that we are having to buy much further up the supply chain. Very difficult for large distributors (horizon/hobbico) to justify massive inventory they may have liquidate at a loss. Something about too many eggs in one basket or something.

01-05-2017 01:45 PM
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wjvail

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Meridian, Mississippi

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https://www.amainhobbies.com/o.s.-1...smg1965/p577354

While the Anniversary Addition 105 seems to be disconnected by Tower there does seem to be a few of them available from US suppliers. Strangely enought, by comparison to "normal" 105 + pipe pricing, it is quite affordable.

Check here -> https://www.amainhobbies.com/o.s.-1...smg1965/p577354

Bill

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01-06-2017 02:06 AM
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OLROY

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Wichita Ks

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Runryder has died down a bit though they were jammin a long time ago not so much anymore its a shame because its my favorite forum but the other heli forum
That's so true...10yrs ago I joined this site and it was jamming and heli's was everywhere. Now our LHS seems all they want to stock is Blade products.
I think people did get tired of spending $2K plus and getting $500 back on it. I remember couple years ago people was practically giving it away. Trex 700 was going for $600 bnf ....that was crazy then
I do think that this market is too high priced and maybe what's the problem of now seeing only planks at your flying field....but that's just here where I live.
For the people that think FPV is going away...I doubt that...when ever did a heli vent have a purse for a million dollars????
BrainDrain_dx on here was a big reason I got into this hobby and was the best pilot we had around here...now he's off every wk end to an DRL and see him fly on ESPN
Times change and I'm sure heli's will make a come back, but for now have fun and fly what you got

01-06-2017 11:34 PM
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Steve Graham

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Denver, CO

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Hobbico lost my business a long time ago with their service, or lack thereof. Good luck getting them to honor any warranty on a nitro engine regardless of the failure. May as well get it as cheap as you can. RCJapan has taken very good care of me over the years.

01-07-2017 04:07 PM
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mynzbtr

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Illinois

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Helis going away.

Lets not even think that, its all I fly now. I started out years ago with Nitro planes and had fun. I then left the hobby due to family difficulties. I was out for about for years and decided to get back in the hobby only to find out that my club was mostly flying electric. Being that it was winter I decided to get a small drone and flew it,in my basement (wow not to exciting at all). I then did research on C.P. helicopters, I was like hey! I don't need a runway and can fly some of these in my back yard. So I taught myself how to build, setup and fly some small 250-300 class CP helis. The bad thing is the flight time, maybe 6-8 minutes then charge. I also had to worry about fire as well as the cost of a good battery. I bought a Hirobo 50 size nitro FB heli and made it FBL. The thing was awesome, flew great for my style of flying and was able to get 20-25 minutes of flying time on it. I realized I was going through several gallons a fuel on a weekend and at 36 a gallon it was starting kill my budget. So now I'm flying gassers and loving it. I still have several small electric helis but you cant beat the big 700-800 gassers and of course the fuel is cheap. When I crash, I can afford to by the parts to repair it. So I guess what I'm saying is that I love the hobby, and hope and pray that helis will never fizzle out. As for drones/quads they are OK but I find that there is no challenge at all in flying them. Plus from what I'm seeing in my club, they are not cheep either. Just my opinion. Sorry for the long reply but I just wanted to give my opinion on this subject.

01-07-2017 04:55 PM
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Dingo07

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Newport Coast, CA - USA

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Helis have No Resale Value

Over the past 25 years of the Heli hobby I've seen resale value tank. Prices of parts and kits have syrocketed and when people decide it's not for them take a 50%+ loss to sell out. That's created a stigma that people want parts for next to nothing. You can purchase a motor brand new in the box one day, turn around and sell it without opening the box the next day, and only get 60% of what you paid for it. Not good IMO. We have to respect the effort that's been put into the parts and command more for them.

01-07-2017 06:13 PM
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wjvail

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Meridian, Mississippi

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Why do people do this?

$1,600 bucks...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/282317515873?ul_noapp=true

$80 bucks...
http://www.rcjapan.net/index.php?ma...oducts_id=20924

I'm sorry but this is just lousy. Yea, I know - If you are dumb enough to buy the thing for $1,600 you've got no one to blame but yourself. Still. It's a rotten trick to try and play on someone.

Bill

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01-07-2017 06:31 PM
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KevinB

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Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada

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That's 80,000 Yen.....not $80.00 US. Converted that equals about $684.00 US.

The ebay seller is still massively overpriced though.

KevinB

01-07-2017 08:54 PM
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wjvail

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Meridian, Mississippi

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That's 80,000 Yen.....not $80.00 US. Converted that equals about $684.00 US.
Ooops. You are right. I move the decimal one place too many. Thanks.

You would think with one of my children living in Japan and a college degree in mathematics, these kind of mistakes would be less likely

Still, the point remains.

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01-07-2017 10:48 PM
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rapster

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St Louis, MO

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They are not but less people are getting into the hobby and most are not actively flying anymore.

01-08-2017 03:35 PM
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RM3

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Killeen, Texas - USA

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fad,
noun
1.
an intense and widely shared enthusiasm for something, especially one that is short-lived and without basis in the object's qualities; a craze. a temporary fashion, notion, manner of conduct, etc., especially one followed enthusiastically by a group.
...it was a Fad... plain and simple. A Fad fueld by the 3D demi-gods of the early 2008 - 2014 (Szabo, Botos, Stacy, Kammerer, Watts, Alsaadi etc) which boosted interest with exposure via youtube and websites (like RR) made it awesome. market flooded with helis, interest peaked (2008-2010, intro of FBL), drones came in with FPV and cheap entry, interest fell, FAA involvement.... most people have had their fill, many have moved on and out.

now going back to pre-2000 levels... likely to end up at RC boat levels.

into obscurity

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

01-08-2017 05:32 PM
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Heli_Splatter

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Silver Spring, MD by way of Sidney, Ne - USA

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Better than Ever

I think that those same guys that tried and abandoned helis would do much better now if they knew how much better the equipment is.

I am glad that I made if from FB to FBL without quitting. The new helicopters have so many fewer parts and fly like they are on rails. Together with bailout systems, starting has never been better.

The flight simulators allow a new pilot to get past the hovering and into the flying without spending huge on crash damage. You can practice hundreds of times and not spend a cent on crashes.

It is a matter of convincing those guys that are taking up multirotors that the real fun is in single rotor. It could be the beginning of a renaissance. How is that for optimism?

01-08-2017 05:48 PM
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