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dilberteinstein

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A little background:

The missiles missed the ship.

Saudi-Arabia conducted an airstrike that targeted a funeral in Yemen’s capital killing over 140 people and wounding 525 on Saturday.

The US is aiding Saudi-Arabia.

More details here:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...111b_story.html

We have no business over there.

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10-11-2016 02:30 AM
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Str8wing

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Do you ever get the feeling you're on the wrong side?

10-11-2016 03:41 AM
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dilberteinstein

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Do you ever get the feeling you're on the wrong side?
I seem to get that feeling more and more.

Hillary openly stated she would push to provoke another country to attack the US.

It's not just Hillary...the DC elites are pushing for more aggression around the globe.

Listen to Army Chief of Staff Gen. Mark Milley as he issues warnings to Russia.

Watch at YouTube

Russia is moving weapons around and I don't think they have to ability to take the US down, but we still don't need to be involved in any more conflicts.

There is so much to lose in the Middle East and so little to gain.

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10-11-2016 04:20 AM
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Str8wing

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It's not a good idea to poke the Bear, and we have been, for at least the last 25 years. Putin and Xi (China) seem like the adults vice the childish Soetoro and (the american gigolo) Kerry. In any but "American" media, Putin is level headed and seeking to avoid war. Of course here, our propaganda ministry portrays him as a warmongering psychopath. I'm sure the good general was just doing what he was ordered to do. I'll bet he was even handed a script to read from, but his words were for consumption here in the US. Saber rattling...

You're right, we don't belong in the middle east. Our blood and treasure are being wasted by imbeciles.

10-11-2016 06:52 AM
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shawmcky

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I sometimes wonder what our long passed veterans would make of all this??

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10-11-2016 07:24 AM
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shawmcky

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Did those missiles miss or was it a warning perhaps?

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10-11-2016 07:50 AM
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fla heli boy

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I'd like to hear why we didn't return fire....

10-11-2016 12:50 PM
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Heli_Splatter

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Our military is fully capable of handling any situation we find ourselves facing. Two bottle rockets launched at one of our ships. Give me a break. The general is just stating the obvious. Don't mess with us, we will F you up.

It has always been a dangerous world out there. Our friends are not always so easily determined. China is no friend, yet we can collapse their economy as easily as they can ours.

There are a lot of nuclear weapons that guarantee our future.

10-11-2016 02:36 PM
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sjgusmc21

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So, from what I have read, and I could be wrong, you guys are saying we should pretty much just put our hands in the air and pray no one hurts us. Does this sum it up?

F the Bear, F the Red Dragon/Pig, F them all. You let ONE BULLY push you around, and that's IT.

You people freak'n amaze me. A MAN DOESN'T LOOK FOR A FIGHT...BUT THEY DO NOT WALK AWAY EITHER.

Look what the current TWAT of a POTUS has done to our ranking/respect in the work. Its no surprise we have Americans being take hostage for ransom at a staggering rate, missles being fired at our ships, and OMG I could go on and on and on....but you get the picture.

I sometimes wonder what our long passed veterans would make of all this??

The greatest generation would tell us to quit being a bunch of pussies and to QUIT walking away. If you step in it, then pound it flat!

OMG...we are so f'd.

10-11-2016 07:24 PM
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treotraveler

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I'd like to hear why we didn't return fire....
You kidding? Why would Bummer fire back against his Iranian backed rebels, fighting the recognized Yemen government.

Bummer recently gave his Iranian brotherhood all their money back. There is a method to his madness.

10-11-2016 08:08 PM
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Str8wing

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F the Bear, F the Red Dragon/Pig, F them all. You let ONE BULLY push you around, and that's IT.
SJG, I agree with you. When you identify the "bully", stomp the sh*t out of him. But for the US gubmint to identify the "bully", all it need do is look in the mirror!

"We came, we saw, he died" (HRC) In Libya. Regime change.
Regime change in Yemen.
Regime change in Ukraine.
Regime change in Egypt.
Regime change in Afghanistan.
Turmoil/Regime change in Lebanon.
US Navy playing shadow games off the coast of IRAN.
Regime change in IRAQ.
CIA creation of Al-Qaeda and ISIS.
Proxy war in Syria (US material support of ISIS).

On the international stage, "we" are the bully. The list above is no where near complete.

Are you indignant the world is starting to push back???

Some fights are righteous, some are just wrong. The "deep state" has us in a fight where we don't belong.

10-11-2016 09:18 PM
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dilberteinstein

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sjgusmc21

A MAN DOESN'T LOOK FOR A FIGHT...BUT THEY DO NOT WALK AWAY EITHER.
That's exactly how I feel. If we are attacked, I think full force including nukes should be on the table.

I don't think the Middle East is worth losing one American soldier's life unless we are being attacked.

We are there supporting the Saudis and I say that is crap.

We cannot be the world's policeman...we cannot.

Our DC elites are pulling closer into a conflict with Russia and why?...for Syria? Who the heck thinks Syria is worth American lives?

Hillary has openly stated she will provoke an attack so we can go to war...and that is looking for a fight.

The old saying of "walk softly but carry a big stick" is exactly what I believe.

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10-11-2016 09:25 PM
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dilberteinstein

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On the international stage, "we" are the bully. The list above is no where near complete.
That is exactly where we are positioned today.

A few years ago, the Obama administration started a program to create dissentients and stir up discontent in Cuba. They attempted to use social media to pretend to be Cubans and be non political at first. Then slowly, the idea was to start trouble.

Who the heck wants to do that?...Castro is about dead anyway...things are going to change...why mess with other countries like this?

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10-11-2016 09:32 PM
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sjgusmc21

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I might add the following: FINISH WHAT YOU START

I was never for the second Iraq War, didn't think we had the right to invade. But that is a mute point now.

But what we started, we should have finished. And that is where the politicians screw over the military every single time.

War is ugly, War is violent, War is stupid, and War is unforgiving. IT IS THE LAST THING ANYONE SHOULD EVER WANT. Ever!

But.....if you are going to do, do it with ALL OF YOUR MIGHT, ALL OF YOUR WILL, AND ALL OF YOUR FORCES.

I agree with you all more then you think. I do not like us being the Worlds Policemen. But damn it, if you are going to commit, COMMIT FULLY! That is WHY we are where we are today.

Bush Jr. really screwed the pooch. Got it. But Obama just made it 1,000 times worse by kissing every Muslim Nations @ss and bowing down to the Russians and Chinese.

So, do we just keep ducking our heads and get trampled on?

You answer that. I know the answer. Ask Europe what is happening to them right now. Soon, the old Europe will be no more.

I use to work with a young man, that was extremely professional and quite the responsible husband and father, especially for his age. We were talking once and I told him what our father taught us boys...about not walking away and if we did, he would whip our @asses when we got home. He was actually horrified that we were taught this.

Times have changed, and now I'm that 53 year man that wishes we could go back to the way we were. But it's not going to happen.

We are on the downs hill slide of a failing country. I pray for my daughters every night. God help them with what kind of country we are allowing them to inherit. I was proud of mine. Very proud, proud enough to give my life for it. Not any more.

10-11-2016 10:19 PM
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tadawson

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I agree! This country is rapidly being 'transformed' into a festering sore, and a global joke and embarassment . . . it truly disgusts me as well . . .

Friends don't let friends become electrotarded . . . .

10-11-2016 10:50 PM
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dilberteinstein

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sjgusmc21

But damn it, if you are going to commit, COMMIT FULLY! That is WHY we are where we are today.

Bush Jr. really screwed the pooch. Got it. But Obama just made it 1,000 times worse by kissing every Muslim Nations @ss and bowing down to the Russians and Chinese.
You are 100% correct
So, do we just keep ducking our heads and get trampled on?
No, but we need to make certain that every war we engage in is a war worth the lives of American soldiers...plus the effort must be 100% committed. Our DC elites are too willing to throw American soldiers in the fire and then decide to play patty cake.

Example: Viet Nam...we didn't want civilian casualties during bombing runs, so we dropped leaflets to warn the population to stay away from military targets.

Plus General Pete Piotrowski wrote the U.S. Alerted North Vietnamese before Bombing Strikes.

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10-11-2016 11:41 PM
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shawmcky

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The navy has responded with cruise missile strikes in Yemen.Threat over.

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10-13-2016 06:18 AM
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dilberteinstein

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The navy has responded with cruise missile strikes in Yemen.Threat over.
True, but our people are still over there supporting the Saudis.

I could be wrong, but I just haven't seen a good explanation for our being there in the first place.

I feel we are putting our military in harms way for no good reason.

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10-13-2016 07:35 AM
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shawmcky

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"I feel we are putting our military in harms way for no good reason" I agree,what the hell is going on over there,the lunatics have escaped the asylum and are looking for one hell of a fight.Defence is one thing,looking for a fight is another.

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10-13-2016 02:29 PM
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sjgusmc21

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I am just completely disgusted at our current presence on the world stage.

I could type for ever, ramble on and on, but in the end, it would mean nothing.

I am tired of hard working Americans, dedicated to our founding principals and moral fibers that made this country great, being CONSTANTLY AND CONSISTENTLY trampled on.

I wish we would could withdrawal ALL OF OUR ARMED FORCES from every nook and cranny that is not American soil. But if we did, we would weaken ourselves even further, and most likely not be able to recover from it.

Can't we just clone Reagan, T. Roosevelt, G. Patton, Abe Lincoln, and start ALL OVER AGAIN?

I know, I know. But what the hell, I can dream.

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