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DennisH

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A scammer will send you a box of rocks for that matter and claim he sent you what you paid for, who is lying? No one will win here except the seller who ripped you off. Paypal will protect you and refund you your money .
The above is correct. Send money via PayPal as items purchased, and your covered. Send a money order, it's either counterfeit, or they will send a box of rocks. Word against word. Credit Cards also gives the same protection, just check with your CC company for facts.

This happened to me! I sent a Postal Money order for goods, they only payment the person would accept. I received via the US Mail a small flat rate box full of Round Up. Yes, I even showed it to the local Postmaster. This did happen. Long story short, I lost my money.
What are you people talking about. I have lost more money with PayPal than with money orders. 425$ lost to me with PayPal and 0$ lost with money orders. I will say all that money was lost 10 years ago or longer and PayPal has greatly enhanced security since then so I feel safer now.
On the other hand if somebody steals your money order then you can take legal and or criminal action. If you get a bad item then you can file a claim with the dispute tribunal.
Ten years ago, it might have been different. I will take PayPal first before any other form of payment. The Treasury department is suppose to investigate Postal Money Order Fraud. I was told they had bigger issues to deal with. Take legal action? The last time I hired a lawyer, or spoke to one about a situation like this, they don't want to waste their time unless you have money and are willing to receive a few letters from him. That's about as far as it will go.

JMO, been burnt several times, NO MORE. I also have a suit I won back in the 90's. I am still waiting for my judgement settlement.

I might sound bitter, but being in business since 1980 will cause your heart to harden. I have been hit with just about every scam out there with mail order fraud being the worst. We call it "Legal Theft". If a person knows the law, he can cost you many thousands. And there's not a dayum thing you can do about it. You better be a smart business man.

10-10-2016 09:05 AM
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Heli_Splatter

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Silver Spring, MD by way of Sidney, Ne - USA

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I would take a US Postal Money Order Payment, but I would never give one. I could withhold shipment until the money order was cashed, then ship. Of course the buyer could always say you shipped damaged goods, but you(they pay) can buy insurance for that.

I had one bad instance with PayPal, but I was able to protest and get resolution. Buyer sent defective laptop. I wanted to return and nullify the deal. Seller would not allow. PayPal stood up for seller and I protested, PayPal came around to my view, but they paid me back with PayPal money. Seller got to keep the money and I got to keep the defective laptop. I installed new hard disk and installed OS and the laptop worked. It turned out to be a very good deal for me. But it was not right. I asked where to send the laptop. They said to keep it. I did this for a wounded warrior (BTW), so I did not benefit.

This is not a perfect world. Businesses can be just as crappy as individuals. You have to evaluate the risk each time you do business. There are businesses that create false good references.

10-10-2016 03:04 PM
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da_man

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Central NC

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Well it seems like there are still issues with both payment methods out there. Now with complete helicopters selling for 20-40 cents on the dollar it is hard not to buy used.

10-10-2016 05:29 PM
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Brokenlink

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Check their feedback then decide,I have done alto of trading and buying and selling,just got burnt for the first time last month from a member here.I started here when rr first started.

Experience is a hard teacher,because she gives the test first,then the lesson afterwards

10-10-2016 07:49 PM
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faddachad

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Hilo Hawaii

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Thanks for all the advice

Fly Safe

10-10-2016 10:40 PM
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DennisH

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Baton Rouge Louisiana

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Check their feedback then decide,I have done alto of trading and buying and selling,just got burnt for the first time last month from a member here.I started here when rr first started.
I have bought many items on RR. So far I am at 100%, no losses. I do demand a phone number or phone call from the seller. When I sell something, I always put my phone number below my name, call me anytime.

Usually if you talk to someone, you can tell if it's legit or not.

I have taken PayPal payments for $30.00 up to $2,000.00 and I have not had the first incident. PayPal was bought out a few years ago and they really changed for the better. They're also making a fortune, but it's a quick secure way to get your money. I immediately transfer the money to my checking account. I know some business owners who use one account for PayPal. When they receive a payment from their PayPal account, they take it out and deposit it in another account just to be double safe. Sounds like a good idea.

General Rule: Don't take money from a third party for a purchase. The 3rd party person sending the money is not liable to you in any way, therefore you have no recourse against him when his check comes back NSF. I know a person who lost a full payment on an automobile because a third party paid for it. The vehicle was titled in another person's name. This person got the vehicle free and clear. The person who wrote the NSF check is still smiling. YES, this really happened. This is why banks won't take 3rd party checks anymore.

I could tell you stories about legal theft until tomorrow night!

If you take a personal check, make sure the written part is correct. The person could put $1,000 in the number section of the check. If he writes "One hundred dollars & no/100 in the written part, you out $900 bucks. The bank goes by the written part. Store owner are hit with this every day.

The secret is out on the paper our currency is inked with. The pen will not show it counterfeit. You have to look for the strip. This is now a rampant issue everyone is dealing with. I look for a machine to come out that scans every bill to make sure it real. I think it's forthcoming.

There are people living out there very well by beating the system. Our current laws can't stop it.

Again, my .02 worth, hope it helps someone.

Dennis

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