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HawkProPilot

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Norfolk, Va.

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I had the old Hawk Pro in storage for about 6 years now. It has wobble issues and it seems that parts are going to be hard to find. This has me thinking about building a new ship. For the style of flying I like to do, and due to the cost of batteries and Glow fuel, a Gasser seems like a great option for me. I do not have much money to spare so it would be a build over at least a few months. All of that being said, does anyone have a good suggestion on where and what to start with? I have a Tx and Rx from the Hawk and I can probably reuse the servos too. I have a spartan DS760 and a futaba 9254 for the tail. Other than that I don't think there is anything I will be reusing from the Hawk. Any "gasser mentorship" will be appreciated.

I need to get a second job just to buy parts.

09-18-2016 03:05 AM
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RM3

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Killeen, Texas - USA

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Leviathan Goblin... comes as a gasser kit now (no donor model required).

Very good parts support from several online hobby stores (Goblin) and good quality parts for the gasser portion via leviathan.

never had one, but cant seem to find anything bad online...If I had the money, thats where I would go.

but if your expecting a cheap gasser that is good quality AND good support, your in for a rude awakening... good quality gassers still have a relatively steep cost to entry, and many manufacturers have abandoned the idea like TSA and Align to name a few, and Centruy killed its gasser lines and selling remaining stock in favor of drones. After leviathan, Helibug is another option...

IMHO I would stay with an RC format engine heli and stay away from those tiny gassers like the 10cc and 15cc that are nothing but problems.

this is not an area of RC helis you want to go cheap in...

good luck

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

09-18-2016 05:53 PM
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Dawiev

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Middle East

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If you don't mind going over there, the gasser community is very active on HF.

Have a look at the Gas Powered Thoughta forum. There are a few new models coming out,

09-18-2016 05:57 PM
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HawkProPilot

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Norfolk, Va.

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Thanks for replies. I am not expecting it to be cheap getting in. I have been researching the cost of new models. That is why it will be a build that takes a few months. I was just here looking for pointers in the areas that are different from Glow engines. Your feed back is appreciated.

I need to get a second job just to buy parts.

09-18-2016 08:12 PM
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jharkin

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Holliston, MA - USA

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The new updated Whiplash V2 is coming from the new MA Germany. That will be a good option once kits are released. Possibly become a top choice for people who are not into the Goblin look.

The Leviathan KDS Agile also looks very interesting for a traditional pod/boom. And I like my HelixHeli TRex conversion but you dont see a lot of them around.

-Jeremy
Whiplash-G
Helix 700G
T-Rex 450 fbl conversion
alot of planks

09-18-2016 10:56 PM
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HawkProPilot

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Norfolk, Va.

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What size is your TREX conversion? I was thinking of trying one out in the 600 size. I have also heard that the conversions have their share of troubles. That might be old info though. How is it from your perspective?

I need to get a second job just to buy parts.

09-19-2016 01:31 AM
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jharkin

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Holliston, MA - USA

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My conversion is a 700. It did have some issues I had to sort out (they all do) but once I tweaked it I really like how it flies. If you are interested I did a long setup thread on the other site I can send oyu a link via pm.

I have not flown a 600 size conversion. THe problem I see is that the Zenoah engine is heavy, so if you build one in a 600 frame its going to end up as heavy as a 700 anyway... guys I know who have flown a 600 conversion say that its unboggable (good) but the disk loading is very high and auto performance, etc suffers (bad).

-Jeremy
Whiplash-G
Helix 700G
T-Rex 450 fbl conversion
alot of planks

09-19-2016 02:20 AM
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HawkProPilot

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Norfolk, Va.

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Good stuff to think about. I appreciate the info.

I need to get a second job just to buy parts.

09-20-2016 09:52 PM
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HawkProPilot

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Norfolk, Va.

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After some thought and advice, I want to go with the Trex 700 conversion when I can start getting money available for it. Is there anybody out there that has experience with both the Helibug and the Helixheli conversions. I am looking for pros and cons with both. Also, if/when you crash one of these conversions, are parts available separately or do you have to buy another conversion kit if one of those parts breaks?

I need to get a second job just to buy parts.

09-24-2016 05:28 PM
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fastflyer20

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N. Tonawanda, NY

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The helixheli uses a much better clutch.

Tom
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09-24-2016 07:53 PM
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rcheli808

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Mililani,Hi-USA

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Hey Hawk,
My only gasser experience is with the Helibug Trex 600 and 700. The conversion parts in the conversion kit are pretty indestructible. Getting new Trex parts maybe questionable in the not so distant future. I am a sport scale flyer and love this conversion that uses the RC Zenoah engine. Unfortunately because of work, I don't get to make it to the airfield as much as I would like too but with this Zenoah engine in the heli I can always count on it to start...never fails me. I think you will be fine with either gasser conversion. Welcome back...

Tim

09-24-2016 08:35 PM
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rcnut

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Rockford, Illinois

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I had the HeliXheli conversion and it was great. Very solid build, and I didn't find anything wrong with it. As for crashing, I didn't get that opportunity, so I can't say how strong the frame is in a good crash. However, Tin is great to deal with and you can get parts. You can also get the conversion in carbon fiber.

Team Miniature Aircraft
"I love the smell of Nitro in the morning!"
...Citizen 654!

09-25-2016 12:52 PM
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kely

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Michigan - USA

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Building a gasser

Any advice on the KDS Agile 7.2 gasser conversion? It looked awesome at IRCHA...

09-26-2016 04:41 AM
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neverhappy

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Piedmont.Al. USA

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I fly a trex 700N converted to the Helix and Love it. Oh course I fly with the stator gator and gv1 all curves and love it. Now this is my practice machine for scale flying so no 3d.

Jeffrey:) (Love and Peace to all)

09-26-2016 03:08 PM
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fastflyer20

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N. Tonawanda, NY

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The KDS should be a good one. Joey Chan, the designer behind the Goblin conversion was also the master mind behind the KDS.

I am not the biggest fan of the trex conversions compared to the Goblins, I have owned both and they are in different leagues.

If you already own a Trex as a donor so the conversion is much less expensive and that is the determining factor, then it may make sense to go with a Trex based heli.

Tom
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