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rcflyerheli

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I've never been an expert on computer programming, etc, but I have used computers enough to be mostly familiar with setting them up, until today.

I have a 7 year old MACbook Pro, and it has been my go to computer for doing any kind of setup that is hobby related. Not too long ago, my hard drive failed, and had to be replaced. I had everything setup running El Capitan, Parallels, and Win 8.1.

Win was installed and registered using an OEM disk that I purchased. Everything worked fine all through IRCHA until about a week or so ago, I get this message that Win has to be activated. I might also add that I have a Dell desktop running native Win 8.1.

I went through the activation process for my Mac version of windows, but now, for some reason, when I start and run Parallels and Windows, the Windows side doesn't have any connectivity to my WiFi router even though the Mac side is connected and working normally.

I've tried going through the "connect to the internet" process on windows, but all I get is a broadband that requires an ethernet connection; it's like WiFi doesn't even exist.

Hope someone else out here is running the similar setup as I am, as most of my hobby related programs only work thru Windows.

Thanks in advance for any help.

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09-07-2016 12:13 AM
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helifanatix

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I have a MAC as well and found out it's much easier to use a Lap top Windows base.

I picked up a 14" (if your eyes allow it) lap top for $149 refurbish.
- found out a windows 7 or 8 is less of a headache on compatibility
- straight forward

- Scott

09-07-2016 12:57 AM
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rcflyerheli

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Thanks for the reply. I had forgotten to mention that after I did the activation routine, I got messages indicating that windows needed to be updated, so I did (or at least tried to do) the critical updates that were referenced. Some of them went through, but I got a bunch that indicated failed installs.

What I just did was to do a restore to before I tried to do the updates. That did restore my internet connectivity, but it killed all my bookmarks. But at least I can again connect to the internet thru windows so I can download and install heli applications. I guess I'll just have to reinstall my bookmarks. Oh well, they were getting kinda cluttered anyway (tryin to make lemon aid out of lemons).

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09-07-2016 05:05 AM
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YankieSole

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I had the same problem and I can't remember exactly how I fixed it. It has something to do with boot camp. I believe I had to uninstall and reinstall Windows and kill a process in boot camp to let it finish and then it worked

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09-07-2016 08:16 AM
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rcflyerheli

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Part of the problem is that I can't run Windows 8 on El Capitan using bootcamp on this 2009.5 computer. For some reason, it will work with only Win 7, and I don't want to do that.

My old version of Snow Tiger and Lion would work with XP, but I wanted to keep my OS 10 up to date, and the latest version will not work with XP.

Win 8 is pretty good for me in most all other aspects, and that is what I run on my Dell desktop. I feel better about stuff, now that I got it undone from the failed updates. I only use the Win side on the Mac for hobby stuff, and it doesn't just stay connected to the interned, so I am not too concerned about viruses.

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09-07-2016 02:48 PM
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helifanatix

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The Objective is setting up the Heli (despite it not being on the platform of your of your choice). There is a easy way and hard way, the choice is obvious. Sometimes you gotta be OK with not being OK and realize what is the overall goal.

- Scott

09-07-2016 03:10 PM
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rcflyerheli

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I hear ya. I had gotten the Mac as a travel computer when I was still flying the line and traveling every week. That was before I even got started into helis, so I only used the Mac side of it.

FF to present where I am retired, and do a ton of setup work. When my HD first died, I thought about going back to a Win based computer, but it was ver 10 and didn't work with Mikado software properly, and the Mac/Win combo did everything I wanted or needed. I found out that the hardware is the limitation on my computer (2009) as to why Parallels/El Capitan will not run anything newer than Win 7.

When something dies on the Mac, I will have to face reality and make another decision. Just replacing the hard drive on the Mac was easy, and going to a SSD made it a bunch quicker than the old HD. I can tell you that the Mac Pro is one tough SOB. I forgot it on the top of my car and watched it blow off going about 60 down the freeway, bounce up out of sight of the rearview mirror and tumble end over end for what seemed like forever. It was inside its rubber sleeve, but not in any kind of bag. I knew when I picked it up, it would just be in pieces. Nope, not a cracked screen or anything else broken. It did have one little ding on one corner, but other than that, no physical damage at all. It played perfectly for two years until the hard drive failed.

It will be a hard choice for me to replace it if something major finally dies, I can tell you. Also, all I have to do is re import my bookmarks, and everything will be back working perfectly. I downloaded the firmware updater for my new Bump controller and did the firmware upgrades last night, so things are pretty well back to being good.

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09-07-2016 03:31 PM
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Ronald Thomas

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If you are using it for just Heli applications like VBAR and sims, Windows 7 with bootcamp works well...that is what i am doing ofr certain sims and applications (Castle) that do not have a MAC option...

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AirWolfRC

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Can't recommend Windows 8.
Use Win 7 or Win 10

You lost your bookmarks . . .
. . . no comment unless you divulge what browser you're using.

PS,
When are these manufacturers going to start using BlueTooth on an Android device for setups ? . . . or even USB on Android ?

09-07-2016 05:11 PM
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ticedoff8

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In Parallels or VMWare Fusion, the MBP's on-board WiFi or Ethernet interface needs to be shared with the Windows virtual machine (VM).

There are a couple of ways to do this.
But, I am not a Parallels guy - I use VMWare Fusion.
The setup would be done in the VM's settings using the Parallels System Configuration for that VM.

If you "Bridge" the VM's NIC to the MBP, then the VM will get it's own IP address from the router and you MBP will have a different IP address.
This is handy if you plan to use VPN access from the Windows VM.
But, this can cause problems on a WiFi network that requires each "machine" to be registered on the WiFi router.

NAT (network address translation) is another option and works pretty well if your Windows VM does not need to use a VPN.
This way, the Windows VM is sharing the MBP's IP address and is "invisible" to the WiFi router. It looks like only the MBP is connected, and no other "machine"

You may also have to use the Parallels Settings screen for the Windows VM and select WiFi vs Ethernet.
Sometimes, it cannot make the change automatically.

Note, that none of this needs to be configured in the Windows VM.
All of it is configured in the Parallels System Configuration of the Windows VM.
And, most of this can be done while the Windows VM is running.

I stopped doing bootcamp long ago.

There is no reason to buy a dedicated Windows system unless you wanted to bail out on the Mac.
There is a certain satisfaction in getting the most out of a system. Even if it requires re-learning something you setup initially a few years ago.

BTW:
It is not "if" a hard disk fails. It is "when" a hard disk fails.
Backup, backup, backup.
Time Machine isn't perfect, but it works.

Personally, I use 500GB SSD now on all my Windows / MacBook laptops.
They boot faster and have no moving parts.

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09-07-2016 07:10 PM
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helifanatix

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For future reference
- once you get your PC working the way you like
- clone the hard drive
- when your hard drive crash, You can back up an exact image of your PC (The way you had liked it)with all the softwares. Don't have to start from scratch

I have a 2015 Mac 15" Lap Top
- After it all done and said, end up using another Windows based PC for all the helicopter application
- even for SIM, laptops have their limitations when it comes to the video card and interface

- Scott

09-07-2016 07:27 PM
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rcflyerheli

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Can't recommend Windows 8.
Use Win 7 or Win 10

You lost your bookmarks . . .
. . . no comment unless you divulge what browser you're using.

PS,
When are these manufacturers going to start using BlueTooth on an Android device for setups ? . . . or even USB on Android ?
Just out of curiosity, why win 7 vs win 8? Win 7 was notorious for having driver setup issues. That is why I stayed with XP for so long and skipped over 7 when I got my current desktop. I originally tried a Win 10 laptop (actually 2 of them), but I never was able to get the Vbar software to run correctly, despite trying all the fixes that have been talked about. That was when I decided to go back and just replace the HD on the Mac with a 500G SSD.

There was apparently something that got corrupted with Parallels Tools when I did the win updates that only partially installed correctly. After doing a restore to before I tried to do the updates, and then reinstalling Parallels tools, everything is back to working, except firefox lost the bookmarks. It's no biggy, as I had a lot of junk ones there, and now can just start with a clean sidebar.

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AirWolfRC

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I don't recall much of any problems with Win7 drivers. In fact, Win7 does a pretty good job of finding drivers on the web that may not have come with legacy boards.

I keep saying Windows is a hit or miss proposition.
Win98 was good, Win ME not
WinXP was good, Win Vista not
Win7 was good, Win8 not
Win10 is good ? . . . so far . . .

next time backup the user profile for your particular browser.
It includes your bookmarks.

FireFox = C:\Users\user-name\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles

09-07-2016 09:23 PM
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rcflyerheli

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Just out of curiosity, what is the beef with Win 8? Someone said to me at Abilene last year something about the start function. I guess I really don't understand what they were referring to about that.

8.1 has been stable and quick, and I like being able to switch between the tile presentation and the desktop.

I started this thread requesting help with an issue, and I don't want to sound ungrateful or argumentative over this particular issue. I just want to know now, that I have my issue resolved, why folks don't like Win 8.

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ICUR1-2

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why folks don't like Win 8.
Just a guess Windows 8 was a transition software to get people to go from pc to tablet and the first release did not blend them well enough to make pc user's happy.

spending time, paying attention

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