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rcheliguymtl

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Montreal, Quebec - Canada

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480n rtf

I just found an rtf called 480n global eagle for about 550$ all I need to add is fuel any of you heard or tried / seen this heli?

08-23-2016 02:22 AM
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icanfly

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these have been out since 2009 or so,

Watch at YouTube

lol, nitrooooooooo

08-23-2016 02:48 AM
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rcheliguymtl

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Where can I buy the rtf walkera 83 new in north america?

08-23-2016 03:15 AM
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vfinohio

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Columbus. Ohio - U.S.A.

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Why not start with a nice smaller quad? Relatively easy to fly and the controls are setup just like a heli. You could get a decent one for less than you are looking to spend now on a nitro heli and it won't be a big deal to fly in your backyard. You could sell the JR Nex or when you gain more experience get to a club and fly the nitro there. I know you asked about a nitro heli but this might be a good alternative.

I would second that a Realflight sim would be a good investment as well.

08-23-2016 03:29 AM
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Aaron29

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A park is not conducive to nitro. And unless you have a good amount of space, like the Nick Maxwell videos, a backyard isn't appropriate either.

You should look up the damage that just a small 450E can do. Slice and dice. Even a 450E is too much for a park, and it's a smaller electric. Nitro? No way. That Walkera is 20% larger than a 450, per the video description. This is no park flyer.

For a park, I usually say get a Blade 180. It's large enough to have a little fun, and small enough that it won't be sending anyone to the hospital - hopefully. Still need to be careful, though.

Additionally, with parks, no way nitro or large electrics. Never. You have an obligation to other parkgoers and your fellow hobbyist to refrain from placing others at risk for your fun.

For backyards, the Blade 180 is again as big as I'd go unless you have a good amount of land, or a farm. If that's the case, then have at it with a nitro. But us mere mortals with a "yard" can't really justify nitro.

I haven't even mentioned noise, BTW. I only spoke to safety. Noise concerns just add that much more credence to my argument.

Nitros have their place, but it's limited to big expanses of land with little public danger and noise concerns. Parks and backyards don't come to mind.

Just my 2c.

08-23-2016 04:07 AM
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David Franklin

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Reisterstown, Maryland

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Backyard Heli

I use to have the same problem, by the time I got home from work there was little time to go to the field and have some effective flight time with my JR. Ergo 46 with an OS 50 given the number of flyers at the field as well. Field was not large enough to fly both Heli's and planks at the same time. Fortunately, I have 3-1/2 acres at my home to fly that I had to start to utilize. No problem with my neighbors they often looked forward to me flying and watched from their decks. Have not been out flying lately because of other projects. Neighbors miss it and ask me when I'm going to fly again. I am very fortunate to have good neighbors. Get a chance to talk to some kids to get them interested in RC Heli's and to respect these machines, and learn the building process. I am more of a sport flyer, with easy patterns. No crazy stuff to frighten the neighbors, no multiple heli's/drones flying at the same time and I respect property lines. Having my own place to fly does really allow me to concentrate on needed basic skills I have to improve upon without distractions as well as plenty of time to setup my heli and or test at my own pace. I am looking forward to transitioning to electric, perhaps a little quieter in operation, though neighbors never had a problem with the noise of the nitro. Enough trees and shrubbery around to buffer some of the noise. Some things for you to consider along with what other members have mentioned.

08-23-2016 04:14 AM
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banshee rider

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heliraptor10
Banshee,
Of course because mass is huge contributor to stability.
But the difference is much lower now.
I flew a 180 with a micro brain and it handled like a 450. A "hands off" hover, no change in attitude, only drifting due to the breeze
I know exactly how they fly
I own a 130 red bull a 180CFX and a 450 right now
plus a Shuttle a 700 Freya several Raptors a Synergy N5C and a couple of Gassers and who knows what else

that's not counting the ones I have totally destroyed or sold
over the last 28 years

You nor anybody else will ever convince me that a little heli
will fly as good or almost as good as a 500/600

As long as they all have modern electronics
That saying that a lot of people say ( that they fly bigger than they are) is Horse Pucky

ageing is manditory maturity is optional

08-23-2016 04:18 AM
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rcheliguymtl

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Montreal, Quebec - Canada

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480n rtf

I have a small blade nano quad and it's fun but doesn't handle outdoors winds well.. what's wrong with that 549$ Chinese 480n global eagle rtf nitro? It even comes with a starter and case..looks like a no Brainerd to fly on a farm and rcbuddy.com in Ohio sells it

08-23-2016 04:48 AM
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heliraptor10

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I never said that they fly "as good as"

Because you are right, that is bs.

My point is that they fly way better than they used to.

Goblin! where have you been all my life?

08-23-2016 05:17 AM
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ICUR1-2

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Ottawa, Ontario

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Nitros have their place, but it's limited to big expanses of land with little public danger and noise concerns. Parks and backyards don't come to mind.
I dunno I guess it depends on experience; the size of space you need.
I certainly agree to avoid public areas that are in use > google maps

spending time, paying attention

08-23-2016 05:22 AM
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Einzelganger

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Campbell, Texas

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I have a T-rex 500 electric that flies great in a small space.
I have an NX4 nitro that does the same.
Both fly great.
Both have a CGY750 and handle the wind great.
The T-rex is almost silent
The NX4 is a pleasant sounding nitro.
I wouldn't recommend either at a park.
My back yard is about an acre with several acres open just over my fence.
I do have full permission from my neighbor to overfly his cow pasture if there are no cows around. That is most of the time.
My only other neighbor across the street brings his boys (3) out to watch when I fly. They all love it.

Wayne

I love the smell of nitro in the morning.
RIP Roman

08-23-2016 12:09 PM
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Richardmid1

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Leeds, England

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Gaui nx4 is the only decent small nitro heli, walkera or that Eagle thing are junk.

60% of the time, it works every time!

08-23-2016 06:31 PM
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heliraptor10

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kokomo, in-US

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I couldn't find a single video of that eagle 480 that ran longer than 4 minutes without a cut.

They claim 30 minutes.

I bet you spend most of your time cursing at it.

Goblin! where have you been all my life?

08-23-2016 06:54 PM
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Jeff polisena

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AMA is great and good at what they do Ive been a supporter from day one of my hobby . That being said if you own a home AMA is secondary to homeowners ins.This is true for auto ins also if your stuff is stolen out of automobile. I was hit hard by a plank and the guy that hit me paid out of pocket for my med bills so his wife wouldn't kill him for claim on homeowners.
You do not need AMA to fly. If you fly at sanctioned field ,club or charter they might will require it .
I went thru a house fire and what I had to do to get AMA to cover my hobby stuff is not worth paying them but as I said I support them just to have a great group of people backing the hobby setting standards to protect the hobby.

My Opinion for a hell size , I would say 500 size ,Its in the middle of too small or too big. Nitro for back yard would draw attention and noise could cause problems if neighbors too close. If you care about neighbors

Most parks don't care about nitro ,just use common sense and safe distance from people .If approached just give respect it will go a long way. Don't hover and burn soccer grass ,you won't last long there.

I stole it ,flew it and gave it back ;)

08-23-2016 09:33 PM
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rcheliguymtl

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Montreal, Quebec - Canada

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nitro heli

i'm still looking for a perfect nitro rtf i can buy new on the market (not classifieds) that comes with everything

08-23-2016 09:55 PM
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Aaron29

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Honestly, nitro and RTF aren't normally things that go together. You won't find RTF in serious helicopters. Plus, since you have to eventually maintain and/or fix the helicopter, being the builder is a plus.

If you want RTF, get yourself a Blade. If you want a nitro, pass on the RTF and get a good one. You said you built an Ergo? If anything, builds are easier these days.

The RTF part, if you insist on it, will take out most, if not all, of the helis on the market.

Nitro isn't really a plug and play thing. What you're asking for, a NIB plug and play nitro, I'm not certain even exists. At least nothing with any quality.

08-23-2016 11:19 PM
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ICUR1-2

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Ottawa, Ontario

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i'm still looking for a perfect nitro rtf
I'm still dreaming for that winning ticket guess who has a better chance of finding it

Nitro = tinker toy < for the mechanically inclined pilot "able to fix engines"
Electric = RC toy < for the beginner to advanced pilot with some building skills

spending time, paying attention

08-24-2016 12:39 AM
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icanfly

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honestly the 450 based nitro helis are fun but not going to last without problems to the smaller motor after they're used a bit. The Gaui nx4 would be my choice also especially if your back yard is a couple of acres give or take.

Odd, I used to think a field of a couple of acres was huge enough for my 550, it's not bad, the field sure shrunk in size when I flew big air, and no buffer zones for emergency landings, it's pretty good though.

How many acres is a football field?

There's also the Trex 450 nitro by Align if you do a search, some kids just love ic engines and nitro same as in cars and truggys and boats and planes and whatever. In e power your going to be maintaining lipos, with nitro it's the motor that gets your attention and time.

08-24-2016 01:09 PM
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JuanRodriguez

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The Villages, Florida

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AMA is not required to fly anywhere that does not specifically require it.
Most likely, a local park does not specifically require it.
There may be signs posted that expressively restrict or prohibit the use of any model aircraft.
That just means the city is savi about the general dangers of model aircraft and don't want to deal with the parents of kids that were scared by a model getting too close or actually hurt by one.
Being an AMA member wouldn't get you passed those restrictions.
This is the wave of the future...

http://helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=755933

Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....

08-26-2016 11:01 PM
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rcheliguymtl

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Montreal, Quebec - Canada

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nitro quads

There's a company on Kickstart er selling nitro quads... now that's interestingly fun

08-26-2016 11:23 PM
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