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I am an acoustic guitar fan. I have been trying for years finger picking style (is that the correct term > but I just don't keep at it. I even once learned to play sheet music, but that's gone from my brain.
Maybe if I tried a good guitar I might stay with it. I have 5 cheap ones (low $100 dollar range) most are gut string setups with wide neck for flamenco style playing.
Sure glad someone opened this thread, already learned more than enough to get me in trouble about adjustments.
Paul

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08-18-2016 03:35 PM
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Dr. Fibinotchi

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huh.

So a little older I picked up an electric. Couple guys at my work play a variety of stuff in maintenance. some like Acoustical One of the guys I know loves the classical gas kind of music.

Watch at YouTube

I like all kinds of music, but find from starting to learn the guitar its a blast. I really admire the different types of music as well as many who create it.

The guitar I picked up took about 8-10 times before it holds key without much adjustment. Stored in the basement in the stand.

-Cody

If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion.

08-18-2016 04:18 PM
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gmcullan

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Guitar adjustments should be made in the following sequence.

Neck relief: should be .005" to .015" at the 7th fret. There is no one "right" number, as playing style and personal preference will strongly influence this part of the setup. I have a friend that likes extremely low action. But he has a soft touch and it works well for him. I dig in a little harder, so his setups tend to be a little buzzy for me.

Nut: nuts from the factory are typically set up high, thus making sure that the guitar is essentially buzz free. You can almost always refine the nut setup. I feeler and digital gauges and typically set the 1st (high E) string to clear the 1st fret by .005" - .006", adding .002" clearance for each of the remaining strings. This setup typically works very well with electric guitars using 10 - 46 or 9 - 42 string sets. Other refinements are to make sure that the string slots are no more that .002" wider that the string diameter. This is a potential buzz problem. In an ideal world, you would not want the string slots to be deeper that the diameter of the string. By the way, almost nothing beats a real bone nut.

Step 3 is setting your bridge height. In most cases, 12th fret clearance for the 1st string of 4/64" and 5/65" for the 6th string will work well. Again, playing style and personal preference will dictate what works best for you.

A note about Rickenbackers is that they are the only guitars to my knowledge that use a dead straight neck in their setup, no relief at all.

Gerry Cullan,
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08-18-2016 04:19 PM
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outhouse

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Sure glad someone opened this thread, already learned more than enough to get me in trouble about adjustments.
Nylon string guitars require a much different approach then we listed or discussed.

The string tension is not even close so the strings sit much higher.

I use a thick or medium pick for string height gap on the first fret.

On many there are no truss adjustments.

String height may vary but you will have a buzz box if to low, or a slap style flamenco player.

I did mine by feel and personal preference, but its high. Hard part of nylon is keeping intonation. Sometimes it is a loosing battle and you play around it. Or spend the money on a nice one.

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Aaron29

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I find it strange how many of us share similar alternate interests. I've encountered the same with heli pilots into shooting or archery, motorcycles and cars, etc. Maybe there's a gene

08-18-2016 06:12 PM
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gmcullan

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I forgot to mention that setting the intonation is the last step.

Regarding Tommy Emmanual, he is in a league of his own. Google Tommy Emmanual guitar boogie. You will not be disappointed.

Gerry Cullan,
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08-18-2016 06:16 PM
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gmcullan

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Aaron, I think it boils down to a common need to tinker, discover, learn, and expand our boundries.

Gerry Cullan,
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08-18-2016 06:25 PM
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RayJayJohnsonJr

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Aaron, I think it boils down to a common need to tinker, discover, learn, and expand our boundries.
Where the hell is the 'like' button?

Nicely said!

There, their and they're. It's really that simple.

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gologo

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I find it strange how many of us share similar alternate interests. I've encountered the same with heli pilots into shooting or archery, motorcycles and cars, etc. Maybe there's a gene
Yep, can relate to almost all you mention there...archery....eeehh
I think it boils down to a common need to tinker, discover, learn, and expand our boundries.
Yes also.

Gerry, thank you for posting that bio, didn't really think you would
Very interesting and very . Will try to check out some of that,
and yeah, I was almost old enough for Ferlen, know of several of the others. Didn't realize Tiny Tim actually did shows around the country; always thought of him as more of a Vegas or Hollywood guy....gotta google
him too

08-19-2016 03:49 AM
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gmcullan

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Disappointed, just tried googling Flashback or Joe Consolie & Flashback. It's like we never existed.

Joe is currently in a long term care facility dealing with advanced Alziemer and cancer.

We had many drummers, but two of note are Dave Pontbriand (also good on keys) and Tom Grignon. Tom was with Zonkeras before joining Flashback and went on to have a very successful career in Nashville as a session drummer.

I don't have any of our records or tapes left. And a very vindictive ex-wife destroyed the master tapes, so it looks like my Flashback is lost to memories. I say my Flashback, for in trying to Google us, I can't believe how many bands are or have been named Flashback. That's the reason we went with the guitarist as the front man and became Joe Consolie & Flashback.

Great memories. My 1966 Hofner 500/1 bass guitar had over 12,000 documented gig hours on it before I retired it. Again, thanks to the ex-wife, I lost that guitar in a legal action. Hum, starting bad memories, as my RickenbĂ cker 4001 and Warwick Screamer basses were lost to the same action. Oh well, other than the memories, they were only "stuff", and "stuff" can be replaced.

Gerry Cullan,
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