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Witch.Duk

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I believe I just stated my issue with the NRA. Too much political power. I would have the same issue with any organization that wields as much political power.

This quote comes to mind:

Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Res ipsa loquitur

08-15-2016 07:20 PM
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Aaron29

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How about a counter-idea...

Could it be that when congress won't take on the NRA, it's actually their constituency they are worried about? The NRA is backed by people like me. I'm a 2A voter. There's lot of us. When congress takes on gun rights, the NRA publicly calls them out on it, then the public goes nuts and congressmen lose their seats. But it's not the NRA that pulls chairs out from under them. All they do is alert the people to what is going on in the halls of congress.

It's the PEOPLE that will pull the chair out from under them.

Just ask congress about the chair game after they passed the AWB. They lost a lot of seats.

The NRA didn't do that. WE DID.

Consider what you are saying when you say the NRA has too much power without adding any content whatsoever. You simply hold a position and have no discussion points. Can't you see my dilemma? I have entire paragraphs that support why I hold a position. You just hold a position and either can't or won't share your reasons why. And you don't see that as a problem, discussion-wise?

08-15-2016 07:23 PM
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Mike0251

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Two Thumbs up^
We are ALL the NRA

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08-15-2016 07:33 PM
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RM3

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Killeen, Texas - USA

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the NRA is the citizens version of the military industrial complex...
they walk a very fine line between supporting the 2A and promoting firearms pushed by the manufacturers...

in essence, they balance the peoples power against the governments power...

if NRA didnt exist our individual rights would have eroded away in the last 30 years to only being allowed a single shot .22 short and 5 rounds of ammo that both must be stored separated from each other in locked containers...

make no mistake, the 2A is not what it used to be...we have so much regulation and restrictions at both the federal and state levels that exercising your 2A right is very difficult to say the least.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

08-15-2016 09:20 PM
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Jerry K

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Witch, Remember the NRA power comes from the people that they represent.

Normally I do not like special interest groups and or lobbyist but in the case of the NRA I support them fully because they support the will of the people against powerful politicians that want to limit a right granted in the constitution. "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" is not hard to understand unless you are a lefist politician.

Witch you said we could have a civil discussion. You also said you own firearms and carry often. How can you utter a single positive word about the hildabeast when you know full well what she wants to do to your rights guaranteed in the constitution.

If you are upfront about owning you know very well guns are not evil and with out a person behind the gun it is an inanimate object. Secondly, if most of the guns were removed from the streets the criminals would be the only ones to have them. If you want to talk calmly the guberment isn't very good at much, so removing all the guns is not possible and the ones left over will be in the hands of the thugs. 3rd we already have enough laws on the books regarding weapons but the guberment isn't interested in enforcing them they want more. This is like a 4 year old. If you want more, enforce the ones you already have before forcing more down our throats.

THE NRA STANDS UP TO POLITICIANS BY USING THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE.

If you truly have and do what you say you do WHY are you not a member of the NRA?

Avoid the 'default' settings in life, Fat Dumb and Poor!!!

08-15-2016 11:01 PM
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newbheliusr

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Most American's don't realize their doing it. But we unwittingly sacrifice our freedoms for the illusion of security. This will be how the second amendment dies. Those of you who keeps your guns, well it just means you are going to be killed by the military, who has far bigger guns than you do. I don't think Hillary will take your guns, but someone after her will.

08-15-2016 11:07 PM
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Aaron29

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So - the military will do it, eh?

Not this vet. And not any vet I know. Nor any law enforcement I know. Do you really think the vets or LEOs will put their lives on the line to carry out an unlawful order in violation of the Constitution they swore to protect?

I always wonder, the folks who think there will be a confiscation, do they know anyone who is in the military or LEO?

I don't see a "roundup day." More likely, the leftists will just pass a bunch of laws, and make criminals out of singular individuals over a very long time period in an attempt to sort of "smoke them out of the house" by making ownership risky.

It'll go over like the criminalization of alcohol did. Speakeasys, widespread civil disobedience and eventual overturning of the law that should have never been. That's my hope anyway. Overturning it without a shot fired.

But I know there will be those who don't react well and will be bringing hate their direction. They'll get themselves killed for no reason. My advice, if there is any kind of ban, is don't go nuts. Calm will win and there isn't a chance they will arrest everyone disobeying. The willpower, faculties, and manpower simply don't exist. They WANT your resistance. Don't give it.

Just civilly disobey.

08-15-2016 11:19 PM
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RM3

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Killeen, Texas - USA

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I say this... world is falling apart.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

08-16-2016 12:29 AM
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conbones

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panama city beach FL

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Rioting masses, wild fires, floods, baby murder on a massive scale and the selling of there parts, its a (mad world) populated by mad people.
so glad they at least have the sanity to demand i pay a fee to fly my toys. Still pisses me off, just want to slap someone or two.

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