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dilberteinstein

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helidragon

Hey, do you have the guts to say who you're voting for?...are or you too ashamed like the other Democrat clowns?

Just asking...take a deep breath and type in her name.

90% of life is "showing up"

08-09-2016 05:09 AM
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Str8wing

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I think you have their number Aaron. The name calling is the "tell".

08-09-2016 05:10 AM
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Aaron29

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I am undecided at this point.
What a pants load of Democrat dung.
Exactly. Witch's post history goes way back. Years of poking at the right and defending the left.

He might be fooling Helidragon. But not me.

08-09-2016 05:10 AM
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dilberteinstein

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He might be fooling Helidragon
A child asking for change for a $3 bill fools Helidragon.

90% of life is "showing up"

08-09-2016 05:16 AM
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Aaron29

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Give HD a chance to review posts and get back to us. If he still holds that position, then OK, he wants to be deceived. But give him a chance. He might just be new and not know who is who.

08-09-2016 05:21 AM
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tadawson

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Lewisville, TX

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I hear about this letter, and two questions come to mind:

How big were the bribes?

*and*

Who are the hostages?

Not many other reasons to support "Hilda the Horrible" . . .

Friends don't let friends become electrotarded . . . .

08-09-2016 05:47 AM
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helidragon

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Aaron29 "...But the fact remains that you all are either not comprehending that ONE OF THE TWO will be president, or you are playing games. Look, if you don't support either, fine, stay at home on election day. But I don't see apathy in you guys. I see concerned action. You are here, emotionally involved in forum discussions, trying to make the case against Trump. But yet doing no such effort against Clinton."

Aaron29, we can talk. You read and comprehend complete threads. You make good points and sound arguments. Some of the others... not so much. They will get flippant, condescending, dumbed-down replies from me.

Unfortunately I do comprehend that it will be one of the two. I do not want to support either one. If I don't vote then I am not participating in Democracy. If I don't vote then I don't deserve to express my opinion. I will vote and Trump is forcing me to vote against him. I don't want to vote for Hillary. Vote for a third party and you've thrown your vote away. Unless something unimaginable happens, it's Trump or Hillary. Trump's ideas and plans will force some people to use their vote defensively. Am I giving equal negativity to Hillary? No, you are correct. For me, this election is all/only about choosing the lesser evil. It is hard for me to say I would vote for Hillary, but for me, Trump is the more evil choice.

Aaron29 "...We get it. Maybe you even prefer her like I prefer Trump - in that you are not crazy about her, but you nonetheless see her as the lesser of two evils, for you. That's fine. Hold that position. It's your right as an American. But don't pull any deception online where you try to come across as disinterested or unbiased observers."

Me, disinterested or unbiased? You strike me as intelligent and quite able to track these threads. I don't post often, but when I do, I don't think anyone would accuse me of not being a straight shooter. I am usually guilty of being too blunt and directly honest in an unfiltered way. I have VERY thick skin. Due to multiple physical abnormalities I don't look or move "normally", nor do I have vision or tactile sensation. Don't comment or feel any pity for me. All pity, self or for others is a waste of time, energy and emotion. Fortunately I have cerebral gifts that support us very well, a great family and a wonderful life. The sum total of my life experiences, good and bad, personal and public, here and abroad, education and career, make me a very direct person. I often shock or offend unintentionally. Sometimes intentionally :-). In that respect I have an unfair advantage. The old and crippled can get away with alot. Lucky for me, I'm both. :-)

dilberteinstein "helidragon, Hey, do you have the guts to say who you're voting for?...are or you too ashamed like the other Democrat clowns?
Just asking...take a deep breath and type in her name."

See above reply to Aaron29 and my previous posts.
dilberteinstein I beg you to remove einstein from your moniker.

Str8wing "I think you have their number Aaron. The name calling is the "tell". "

Good thing you don't have any tells. (Sarcasm Alert for the reading comprehension impaired)

dilberteinstein "A child asking for change for a $3 bill fools Helidragon."

C'mon, are you even trying? Trump would be ashamed of you.
Let me help you out here. While the content and intent are ignorant and stupid, you are lacking in aggression and malice. And you forgot to say everything twice.

Aaron29 "Give HD a chance to review posts and get back to us. If he still holds that position, then OK, he wants to be deceived. But give him a chance. He might just be new and not know who is who."

Thank you Aaron29. You are a much needed breath of fresh air in this Republican wasteland. One of my favorite neighbors is very hard right and we only agree about half the time. We've enjoyed heated political discussions for twelve years. He is voting for Trump and he knows I will probably have to vote defensively for Hillary. No problems and no drama. Another neighbor is a diehard Bush voter (all and any, now and forever). The poor Bush voter is so hurt and angry he is sitting this one out. He is unable to have a conversation with either side.
As to my "wanting to be deceived", well, it's politics and both sides will give it their best (worst?).
I've been on RunRyder many years and I think I have a pretty good idea who is who. And who is nobody.

08-09-2016 08:24 AM
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sjgusmc21

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Witch.Duk:

I get you, but once again, if you vote for Billary this is what you will get...and this is just part of it. Do you really want this?


I know what Hillary / Billary brings to the table:

1. Extreme Left SCOTUS
2. Extreme curvature (rape) of the 2nd Amendment
3. Excessive TAXES
4. More hand out initiatives to the Free Sh#t crowd
5. Thousands more a month of Syrian Refugees on the Taxpayer dime

So, I know what I will get with her..no doubt, and much, much more.

However with DUMP, there is a chance that none of the above will happen.

We blew it with Mit Romney, and Ted Cruz (there were other good candidates as well...but the reality TV Groupie's got in the way).

We just CAN'T let the Hildebeast win. It will be Obama on roids.

08-09-2016 11:57 AM
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Witch.Duk

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I get it. If you can't refute the message, attack the messenger. Personal attacks are childish, but that's the typical strategy here at RR.

This paragraph from HD explains perfectly my view of this election:
Unfortunately I do comprehend that it will be one of the two. I do not want to support either one. If I don't vote then I am not participating in Democracy. If I don't vote then I don't deserve to express my opinion. I will vote and Trump is forcing me to vote against him. I don't want to vote for Hillary. Vote for a third party and you've thrown your vote away. Unless something unimaginable happens, it's Trump or Hillary. Trump's ideas and plans will force some people to use their vote defensively. Am I giving equal negativity to Hillary? No, you are correct. For me, this election is all/only about choosing the lesser evil. It is hard for me to say I would vote for Hillary, but for me, Trump is the more evil choice.
Now, please resume your personal attacks

Res ipsa loquitur

08-09-2016 12:41 PM
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Witch.Duk

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sjgusmc21 - as a fellow veteran, you have my respect and thanks. I understand your concerns if Clinton is elected president. I share many of them.

But there is just no way I can support Trump. A few months ago, I thought it might be possible. Now I do not.

Res ipsa loquitur

08-09-2016 12:50 PM
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Aaron29

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Then what about Trump could possibly be worse than Sjgusmcs list? You can add to that list an extension of the federal overreach we've suffered since 9/11.

Trump is no saint by far but half the stuff said about him is media driven. The media wants him gone as he's a threat to dc elite.

I actually think he might get killed and Pence will be president.

The fact that these entrenched dc elites hate him and both left and right media hates him makes him my pick. Obama was a media baby and saint and look how that turned out? Media support means in with the elites.

08-09-2016 02:23 PM
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ssmith512

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Maybe, just maybe, the Vogons will arrive prior the the election and blow up the Earth - you know to make way for a hyperpsatial express route.

Then none of us have to worry about "the lesser of the two evils".

IT COULD HAPPEN!!!!

Steve

08-09-2016 02:46 PM
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Aaron29

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Well after that cia deputy director endorsement, and the interview giving a glimpse into how some of these folks think, you can also add to the list and count on continuation of middle east meddling and conflict with Iran and worse.

Look guys. When enough information is given, there's comes a point where you can no longer separate yourself from what these elites do and become guilty of their crimes.

08-09-2016 02:49 PM
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koppter

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i'm willing to be that the lot of you who whine about the constitution have never taken a college level con law or poli sci class, have never participated in an informed debate using case law and congressional statutes, but instead prefer to pretend that you actually know something about the constitution because you read the amendments without any understanding of the interpretative process. oh well, the good news is that you continue to play with each other in the sandbox and none of you has any real interest in becoming a real part of the process.

08-09-2016 03:30 PM
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newbheliusr

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You can not reason with people who have no powers of reason.
You can not reason with unreasonable people.
The Trump crew on this forum will ignore facts, truth, logic and common sense. They don't read entire threads or posts. There is no such thing as intelligent discourse here.
Have you noticed anyone who opposes Trump but also does not support Hillary, is a liar. They can't seem to wrap their heads around the fact that some people will not vote for Trump but also do not support Hillary. They just can't/don't/won't understand that even some Republicans will not choose Trump.
I rarely post or reply in this forum because of the high percentage of hard right stupidity. I apologize to those with low intelligence quotient, I only mean to disrespect those who are stupid.
Wish I would have said that. Even many Republicans are voting for Hillary. I"m not, but if that doesn't show dissent in the repub's corner, I don't know what does.

Go on Trump supporters, we will see in Nov who ends up in the white house. Besides, I don't think the american people can afford "The Donald's" expensive tastes.

08-09-2016 04:01 PM
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tadawson

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There is a very clear and specific process defined for constitutional amandment and change, and no mention of 'interpretation' being any sort of a valid process. This would lead one to the obvious conclusion that the founding fathers did not consider 'interpretation' a valid process, instead installing the amendment process to make sure that any alterations were truly intended, and desired by a significant majority. To that end, the other apparent conclusion is that the 'interpretive process' is yet another liberal fabrication to circumvent defined law and process, to further allow thier self serving ideals, and to sidestep all checks and balances that the founders had written in. I feel that the Constitution is an absolute document to be followed to the letter, unless the defined amendment process is followed exactly, and that anything else is treason. To that end, were there a trial of the Bumbler and the Clintons for treason with a capital punishment, I would have no doubts or uncertainties voting 'guilty' . . .

Friends don't let friends become electrotarded . . . .

08-09-2016 04:39 PM
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newbheliusr

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If Hillary wins, will all you Trumpers leave?

08-09-2016 04:45 PM
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Aaron29

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Will you uphold the Constitution?

08-09-2016 06:26 PM
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tadawson

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Naaah, he want to 'interpret' it into saying that everyone should get a free Mercedes . . .

Friends don't let friends become electrotarded . . . .

08-09-2016 07:13 PM
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dilberteinstein

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helidragon

For me, this election is all/only about choosing the lesser evil. It is hard for me to say I would vote for Hillary, but for me, Trump is the more evil choice.
And Trump is more evil because he:

1.
2.
3.
4.

Just fill in the blanks and add to as you want. Now we have something to talk about.

90% of life is "showing up"

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