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Tom French

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Heathrow Florida

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The spring does not seem to be doing any supporting, it is totally not compressing.

Is that normal.?

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07-24-2016 11:06 PM
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Mojave

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Palos Verdes, Ca. USA

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Is something binding? Take the spring out and see if the strut will go through it's range of motion. If it does, then the spring rate may be too high for the weight of the model.
Barry

All helis and planes have an expiration date stamped on them...you only find it after you crash!!

07-25-2016 01:30 AM
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TaylorDrain

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California

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You have two springs and should only require one. The larger outer spring looks like someone added and is preventing the retract to compress. If the inner spring is too weak you should be able to find a replacement at a hardware store.

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07-25-2016 08:45 PM
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Tom French

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Sounds good, but it is retracting ok.
Just there is no tension on the spring, I thought the idea was to supply support when landing,

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07-26-2016 06:19 PM
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JuanRodriguez

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I don't think Taylor was talking about the motion of retracting..... If there is an extra spring that should not be there, then there will be no cushioning action upon landing.... in other words, the spring (s) are too stiff and Taylor's suggestion to remove the larger one may be the ticket....

Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....

07-26-2016 06:46 PM
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TaylorDrain

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California

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When the Heli lifts off as shown in the picture it looks good. When you land and it compresses, it looks like the large outer spring is hitting the outer part of the machined aluminum prohibiting it from compressing all the way. I remember trying different springs to see what worked best. I will see if can find some spare springs and post a picture.

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07-27-2016 02:03 AM
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Margaritaman

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San Dimas, CA. USA

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I got my replacement springs at the local Ace hardware store. They were cheap enough that I purchased three different sets in varying stiffness.

07-27-2016 07:42 AM
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CostaRicaHeli

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Costa Rica, Central America

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I ended up using the springs from a 1/8 off-road Inferno Servo Saver. They had the correct stiffness. The ones that came with the retracts were just to soft.

Hope it helps.

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07-27-2016 05:03 PM
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Tom French

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Thankss for all the guidance.

Taylor, looking forward to your posts.

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07-27-2016 07:01 PM
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TaylorDrain

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California

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Here are the extra springs I used for my 430 project. If you get a longer length you can cut it down to achieve the desired compression of the gear.

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07-28-2016 01:15 AM
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Tom French

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Heathrow Florida

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Taylor,

I got a servo tester, and now I see what you mean.
The front retract is in good shape.

the two rear ones have messed up springs.

So now, I need to figure out how to take apart the retract to remove the spring.

Will try this week-end or maybe Friday night, have class Thursday so no good.

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07-28-2016 05:52 PM
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kogibankole

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yes, the stock vario springs are super soft, I dont tihnk all 3 will support a 1.5 pounds

if im not blade bogging youll find me pack puffing

07-28-2016 06:41 PM
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Tom French

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Heathrow Florida

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Well, not sure how to take this apart. The top two screws are out, but the other side is just spinning.

The wheel will not come off. Do I need to knock out the drift pins.?

Seems like a lot of work to change the springs.

Thanks

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07-30-2016 02:30 PM
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Four Stroker

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YES

07-30-2016 03:13 PM
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Take a look at this pdf of the landing gear. There is a threaded sleeve inside the wheel and top, and if you do not hold the sleeve, one side will spin while trying to remove the screw.
http://www.vario-helicopter.net/fil...manual/2002.pdf

07-30-2016 03:21 PM
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Tom French

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Thanks East Coast

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07-30-2016 04:49 PM
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Tom French

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Thanks for all the help, now it works great.

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08-02-2016 01:47 AM
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Tom French

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Well DAMN, this spring is not strong enough it compressed.

Guess I will get some more until I get the correct tension.

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08-04-2016 01:54 AM
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ssmith512

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I was told by a few people that know way more than me you want the spring to fully compress to the stops. Helps prevent the possibility of ground resonance, especially if taking off from a hard surface. The retract springs fully compress on my Airwolf.

Steve

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modtron

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prevent the possibility of ground resonance
100% correct - nothing worse than a shaking heli beating itself to death !

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08-04-2016 04:37 PM
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