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Heli_Splatter

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Standard Practices 2016

Ronald, It is called open source. There are many companies doing this on a smaller scale. It is a radical idea, but if I felt the product was good and I knew that I had an unlimited source of repair parts, I would buy that product above others. Lets face it, this guy is probably mic'ing other products and using their designs as a basis for his own. This is what China is doing each and every day. Reverse engineering is the industry norm.

I was really thinking, designer got a couple of years manuf and sales then turned over the design to "kit cutters". The user could turn to them for one-off parts for the next 25years or longer. The original guy could get a cut of the parts profit and be free to move on and innovate. Lets face it, this is not rocket science.
Why would a manufacturer spend money on R&D, testing, and manufacturing to the turn around and give that info away?

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myjane

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Nice work is the Cnc at home , like a small desk top model

07-28-2016 12:38 PM
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rakabun

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main rotor hub and tail rotor hub

07-29-2016 06:25 AM
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Ronald Thomas

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Ronald, It is called open source. There are many companies doing this on a smaller scale. It is a radical idea, but if I felt the product was good and I knew that I had an unlimited source of repair parts, I would buy that product above others. Lets face it, this guy is probably mic'ing other products and using their designs as a basis for his own. This is what China is doing each and every day. Reverse engineering is the industry norm.
I was really thinking, designer got a couple of years manuf and sales then turned over the design to "kit cutters". The user could turn to them for one-off parts for the next 25years or longer. The original guy could get a cut of the parts profit and be free to move on and innovate. Lets face it, this is not rocket science.
There is MUCH more to building a heli, or anything really, than just cutting parts. There is a lot of testing, liability, design etc that people put into a product. If the product was plastic covers for a side frame, then yes, give away the code. Very little R&D goes into that.
If I went to school for years to become an engineer, take the time to design, test, manufacture, market, sell, ship, then warranty an item, I am not going to just GIVE the design out to some Jo Shmo with a CNC or 3D printer so he can make his own repair parts (possibly out of inferior plastics, CF, or metal) that fails and makes my design look like a failure....

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07-29-2016 04:32 PM
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GREYEAGLE

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It's absolutely beautiful work / especially the surfaces finishes and know how to get it their - stunning.

Started with Loose Lip's sink Ship's

Then ?

Industrial Espionage / Then Theft of Intellectual property

Ramped up in the late 60's

Then the International Ambassadors on tour from the Chamber of Commerce:

Reverse Engineering is a NEW P.C. Word for THEFT

Then they closed the plant and sent all the Engineering Drawing's and Production to them : Better price /Better product / Lower Wage / Lower cost over all. Including the peripheral cost of business and remote ancillary's. They do not work for what we work for - and they take tremendous pride in their work. They compete even for the privilege.

They do have a very serious bigger problem - I can only imagine -
THAT COST

That is stunning work ! It's above VERY GOOD - Top SHELF : BAR NONE =
Credit where Credit is Due !
Especially the swash carrier: We are busy stuffing pillows.
Sorting Coat hangers and trying on flip flop's.

NICE WORK !

DRAWING rendering is wicked ! { DRAWING } OLd SCHOoL

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Heli_Splatter

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I am talking about after the money cycle of the product. When there is no money left to be made, and you have orphaned a lot of birds for lack of part.

If going into the purchase, I knew that Brand-X has agreed in principle to donate the IP to the public domain after they are done supporting the product. I would consider that favorably in my purchase decision of the product in the first place.

How many heli brands have come and gone?

07-29-2016 09:48 PM
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Ronald Thomas

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That is at least 10 years....if that is your driving decision of how you would purchase a heli, then you have missed a lot. When the parts run out....upgrade

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rakabun

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Main rotor hub

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rakabun

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Prototype




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gmcullan

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Nicely done!

Gerry Cullan,
Gaui 200, 255; T-Rex 250, 450 SE & SA, Mini-Titan, Blade 450

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Aaron29

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Very cool.

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ICUR1-2

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Very nice design features I would buy a kit

Now make a nitro version

spending time, paying attention

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Richardmid1

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Nice! Is it a 600 size?

60% of the time, it works every time!

08-13-2016 04:27 PM
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Ronald Thomas

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Single pack, smallish motor, I would think 480-550 sized. Looks great!

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mcfast

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Looks great!

P.S. sorry for the spelling or the grammar I am dyslexic!

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rakabun

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In 13TH shanghai international model exhibition
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chicagoslick

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Nice work...

Chicagoslick

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subscribe Interested

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