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sjgusmc21

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06-09-2016 10:05 PM
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GREYEAGLE

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A Unarmed population is the the same as a Indentured Complacent Apathetic population under servitude to their Masters : The Political Despot. In DEBT

They have GUN's and Hire them EMPLOY THEM : Most Carry

Same Rules DO apply. " WE THE PEOPLE " they ARE Citizens -No More

Elected with the Privilege to Govern or TO SERVE : NOT CONTROL

If it is CONCEALED : Why do You NEED a PERMIT ?? Ya Don't Know

Your business - Is Not their Business

MAYBE ?? Like TEXAS - OPEN CARRY - That is a Mighty Fine Do DAD !

Few exception's : No Bazooka's / RPG's / Mortars / or any thing with tracks or 10 wheels and a turret.

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06-10-2016 02:46 AM
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baby uh1

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The 9th communist court ruled that? That is as surprising as learning that Hillary is a liar and a criminal.

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

06-10-2016 02:52 AM
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fla heli boy

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Imagine scotus being as liberal as the 9th??? That's the most critical thing about this election.

06-10-2016 12:48 PM
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RMSLINKERS

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Just more liberal judges pushing their commie desires. Disarm the people so you can control them. If the Hildabeast gets in there will be no second amendment or first for that matter. She will appoint supreme court judges that will see to that.

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06-10-2016 02:10 PM
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fla heli boy

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people need to calm down just a tad about amendments.
Constitutional amendments can only be altered with a super majority in Congress as well as a super majority of states.
No way you'll get 38 states to change the 2nd. Maybe some day, but not for a couple generations.
BUT... that doesn't mean she can't so something outside of the 2nd, like going after ammo by taxing it to death and take her chances in court. There's more than one way to skin that cat.
Buy all the ammo you can in the next year.... my 2 cents.

06-10-2016 05:00 PM
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spaceman spiff

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If i understand this corectly the 9th court has little effect. California has been screwey for decades, and Arizona has for several years not required us to have a permit, and continues to not require it.

I imagine there are more risks than benefits in having this topic going to the supreme court.

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06-10-2016 07:01 PM
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fla heli boy

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no doubt about that. But an amendment revision is a long haul. They'll just make it impractical to own a gun and practice with it occasionally. As I said, stock up on ammo.
Put it this way.....I shoot regularly and practice. Wish I could do more. But I burn a few thousands rounds per year. The guys that shoot people??? They shoot 8 rounds a year and shoot kids and bystanders. This is NOT about controlling guns or cutting down on gun murders. It's about controlling law-abiding people. The very ones that will stand up when they have to.

06-10-2016 10:52 PM
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conbones

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look at how fast the people ran and bought permission from the fed to fly there wallmart toys. These people dont care enough about there freedom to fight for it let alone give there lives for it. nobody will stand they are far to comfortable in there chains.

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06-11-2016 05:12 AM
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RM3

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the day one or more of these "judges" gets mugged at gun point they will change their thought process...

But consider this...they likely carry concealed as Cali has a law that states you can get a permit to carry if you can prove you need a gun for self defense...since they are judges, they likely get daily death threats from all sides therefore qualify for such a permit...so they in essence they write laws to suit themselves and their buddies.

Would be good to do some research to find out who the judges are and see which ones own, or use guns for any such purpose.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

06-11-2016 05:25 AM
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spaceman spiff

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Be patient gentlemen. Remember, only a few years ago some of those folks were still struggling with what the meaning of "is" is, They will eventially get to bigger words like "infringed" .

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06-11-2016 05:57 AM
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Aaron29

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They'll just make it impractical to own a gun and practice with it occasionally.
i.e. INFRINGE.

Wake up folks. The second amendment is under vicious attack. In California and NY the amendment is practically nonexistent. If the challenge allows the states to decide, this cancer could come to a locale near you.

Why do we never let states decide on things like the first amendment, or the fourth? Because of EQUAL PROTECTION UNDER THE LAW which is also enshrined in the constitution. Passing the 2nd onto the states to decide would be like allowing Idaho to prohibit free speech. We'd immediately recognize that as being UNCONSTITUTIONAL as all heck. So, why are we ignoring it when the same is done to the 2nd?

Hell, didn't the libs just use the equal protection clause to say gay marriage is legal in all 50 states against several states' wishes? If you use that argument to compel rights for gay marriage why are we not able to use it for a 235 year old constitutional right such as the 2nd?!

This is appalling. The apathy is even MORE appalling. Your dismissal of this as a serious problem troubles me.

06-11-2016 06:23 AM
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spaceman spiff

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Zombie apocalypse ready since 2009

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06-11-2016 06:31 AM
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Attaboy!

06-11-2016 06:32 AM
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Aaron29

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Many of these states won't allow open or concealed carry. This is a HUGE problem.

Folks, don't forget: the amendment says "keep and bear"

It doesn't just say "keep."

It says "keep AND BEAR."

Unless we're talking about mean fuzzy animals, here's the definition of bear:

bear1.

VERB

1.(of a person) carry:

The 2nd could not be more clear. States like NY or CA telling you to leave them at home are 100% unconstitutional.

Might as well be Idaho passing anti-press laws.

Wake up! The 2nd has been under vicious attack for decades and they are WINNING.

Carry restrictions, permits (since when did I need a permit for my rights? who let this happen?!), waiting periods, magazine limits, ban lists, gun-free (self-defense-free) zones,

It goes on and on.

These are ALL INFRINGEMENTS to the right to KEEP and BEAR!!!

But no one cares...so expect more to come. Just fries me watching this fundamental right give way to apathy. While we are OK with this or that tiny loss, the other side is motivated. They are happy to win one tiny battle at a time. And boy are they are WINNING. Just look at this. They have us talking about May vs. Shall issue CCW permits when the true conversation should have been WHY A PERMIT AT ALL!? Wake up, America! Please!

06-11-2016 06:34 AM
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spaceman spiff

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...successful recalls of politicians and repeals of the recent magazine restrictions in Colorado.

Complete removal of concieled carry permit requirements in a few states....

A heck of a lot more hardware tucked away in milions of citizen's closets

Gun shops in chicago? I did not expect to see that in my lifetime.

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06-11-2016 07:17 AM
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Thanks. Sometimes there is good news.

06-11-2016 07:18 AM
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spaceman spiff

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Our grand kids will still be pushing back. The good news is - our grand kids will still be pushing back.

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06-11-2016 07:31 AM
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fla heli boy

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This is appalling. The apathy is even MORE appalling. Your dismissal of this as a serious problem troubles me.
Hope that's not directed at me. I'm just saying to tear down the 2nd will take a loooong time, if ever. They will go after the low hanging fruit that is not covered by the 2nd....ammo.
I'm far from apathetic. Spiffy's safe looks a lot like mine, but a bit lighter on the guns and a bunch lighter on ammo....
My baseline is 2,000 rounds for each caliber I own. Except 12 gauge. Don't shoot either of them much......
EDIT.... oops, has me beat on handguns.... damnit!!!

06-11-2016 11:52 AM
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sjgusmc21

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An cancerous growth starts with one, mutant cell. Then it spreads. This court is a cancerous growth. Lets hope it doesn't take the same path.

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